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Obama's Carbon Ultimatum - The coming offer you won't be able to refuse
wsj.com ^ | October 20, 2008

Posted on 10/19/2008 7:57:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Liberals pretend that only President Bush is preventing the U.S. from adopting some global warming "solution." But occasionally their mask slips. As Barack Obama's energy adviser has now made clear, the would-be President intends to blackmail -- or rather, greenmail -- Congress into falling in line with his climate agenda. [Review & Outlook] AP

Jason Grumet is currently executive director of an outfit called the National Commission on Energy Policy and one of Mr. Obama's key policy aides. In an interview last week with Bloomberg, Mr. Grumet said that come January the Environmental Protection Agency "would initiate those rulemakings" that classify carbon as a dangerous pollutant under current clean air laws. That move would impose new regulation and taxes across the entire economy, something that is usually the purview of Congress. Mr. Grumet warned that "in the absence of Congressional action" 18 months after Mr. Obama's inauguration, the EPA would move ahead with its own unilateral carbon crackdown anyway.

Well, well. For years, Democrats -- including Senator Obama -- have been howling about the "politicization" of the EPA, which has nominally been part of the Bush Administration. The complaint has been that the White House blocked EPA bureaucrats from making the so-called "endangerment finding" on carbon. Now it turns out that a President Obama would himself wield such a finding as a political bludgeon. He plans to issue an ultimatum to Congress: Either impose new taxes and limits on carbon that he finds amenable, or the EPA carbon police will be let loose to ravage the countryside.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; agw; bo; carbon; carbontax; democrat; democrats; environment; envirowhackos; epa; globalwarming; greens; issues; obama
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1 posted on 10/19/2008 7:57:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s good but an “or else” would really drive home the point....:)


2 posted on 10/19/2008 7:58:52 PM PDT by Salamander (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Fair Allocation of Resources,” also known as “rationing,” will happen under 0bama. Electricity first, then gasoline. Medical treatment, education and finally food will follow.


3 posted on 10/19/2008 8:00:27 PM PDT by henkster (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama won’t care that the “global warming” scam has been debunked. We’re going to “fight” it anyway! We’re doing it for his buddy, Algore who has spent a fortune of his own money promoting “global warming.” Al deserves some kind of return on his investment.


4 posted on 10/19/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm just going to spread YOUR wealth around." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama's Carbon Ultimatum - The coming offer you won't be able to refuse

So, instead of a horse's head, we will wake up with a V8 Hemi in our bed.

5 posted on 10/19/2008 8:02:06 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Carbon tax, EPA police, non-secret Union balloting, vastly higher corporate taxes, higher capital gains taxes, bigger insurance regulations.

How fast would the smokestack industry collapse?


6 posted on 10/19/2008 8:02:55 PM PDT by Crazieman (RIP USA. Killed by demonrats and RINOs like McLame. Welcome to the USSA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This kind of carbon dictatorship would be ruinous even in a strong economy.

In a recessionary economy, it will be a disaster unlike any we’ve seen, including the Great Depression.


7 posted on 10/19/2008 8:05:17 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: denydenydeny

ping


8 posted on 10/19/2008 8:06:26 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Mr. Grumet said that come January the Environmental Protection Agency “would initiate those rulemakings” that classify carbon as a dangerous pollutant under current clean air laws.”
The inmates would truly be running the asylum.


9 posted on 10/19/2008 8:09:36 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith

ping


10 posted on 10/19/2008 8:10:35 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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Uh huh, and how's he going to do this? I predict we'll all get national ID cards, but we won't need them to vote, just to get gas, health care and food. And Oh, permission to travel.

11 posted on 10/19/2008 8:11:39 PM PDT by StACase (Global Warming is CRAP!)
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To: StACase

i wish i saved threads. was there not a statement by obama earlier this year about having to be careful about where we set our heat at and how much food we ate?


12 posted on 10/19/2008 8:18:27 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: reg45
Obama's Carbon Ultimatum - The coming offer you won't be able to refuse

How about, refuse you won't be able to offer?

13 posted on 10/19/2008 8:25:35 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We’re going to be in trouble, very serious trouble if this radical communist and totalitarian bastard wins. The US will be brought to her knees by this traitor...


14 posted on 10/19/2008 8:34:56 PM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: StACase

You bet. They will scan your card when you use it. If you don’t have enough “credits” the sale will not be processed. There will be huge penalties for exceeding your monthly kw/hr allotment.

I see lines for insufficient and shoddy goods, and a flourishing black market. As well as a population drunk and/or stoned that doesn’t give a damn. Like another country we all remember.


15 posted on 10/19/2008 8:35:52 PM PDT by henkster (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Comrade Citizen, the Obamessiah has ruled that Carbon Dioxide is pollution! That is why I must stop you from breathing! Your being a registered republican has nothing to do with it!
16 posted on 10/19/2008 8:41:58 PM PDT by Nateman (You only need to fool half of them every 2 years.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was going to say that he could blow it out his a**, but that would involved methane, which is supposed to be a more serious greenhouse gas.


17 posted on 10/19/2008 8:52:00 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

18 posted on 10/19/2008 9:07:16 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BTTT.


19 posted on 10/19/2008 9:32:24 PM PDT by TBP
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To: aruanan
I was going to say that he could blow it out his a**, but that would involved methane, which is supposed to be a more serious greenhouse gas.

Of course the methane hype is nonsense, it degrades itself in the atmosphere. It has a half life and does not accumulate.

But it provides a (fictional) rational for taking over the livestock and meat industries.

20 posted on 10/19/2008 9:45:09 PM PDT by Poincare
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