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Posted on 10/14/2008 9:45:13 PM PDT by Randy Larsen

California Needs Help!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: ca2008; california; davidparker; frc; homosexualagenda; massachusetts; prop8; protectmarriage; voting
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To: Saundra Duffy

WOOO HOOO for your Hubby!

VOTE YES ON PROP 8!

(And yes the majority Hispanic vote will go YES on Prop 8- they have gone pro-family (Prop 22) in the past and will help win this one. Even if they vote for O, they will still uphold traditional marriage.)


21 posted on 10/14/2008 10:21:35 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=1 man+1 woman! Vote "YES" on Prop 8, amend the Calif. State Constitution this November.)
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To: South40

Not according to Duncan Hunter. And I trust him 1000000 times more than “elections officials” and congressional investigators.

We in WA state have been living with a bitch-hag governor for 4 years do to widespread and pervasive fraud in KingCO.

THAT is a fact.


22 posted on 10/14/2008 10:22:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: All
See This!

Prop 8

23 posted on 10/14/2008 10:27:14 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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24 posted on 10/14/2008 10:36:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Randy Larsen

Why? I thought this was going to pass easily regardless of what polls say.


25 posted on 10/14/2008 11:17:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

I think Prop 8 is going to pass. I know the MSM tried to make it look as if people were growing more accepting of gay marriage but apparently that is not true.

If this was a bill to pass civil unions, it would pass, but even California is not going to pass Gay Marriage. The folks just don’t agree with it.


26 posted on 10/14/2008 11:19:08 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I have seen more Yes on 8 then no in my new neighborhood, which I have come to love compared to very liberal west LA--LOL. But this is encouraging. Also the someone posted a sign the other day in big letters on a community fence in bold black letters: Obama--Empty Suit, World Merchant Socialist and it has remained untouched and prominently displayed in it pristine state for well over a week. Ah, finally a neighborhood after my own heart.

I do miss the out in the open conservatives in San Diego though. Our first Halloween there in 2000 the mother with a kid we had just given candy to was standing out on the edge of our walkway and yelled, "Go George Bush!" We agreed with a "Yoo HOO!" What a fun feeling that was after living in Seattle for so long as a conservative.

27 posted on 10/14/2008 11:58:30 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: pissant
Duncan Hunter is my congressman, my neighbor and my friend. He may have said illegals voted because he knows they have. We all know that. I doubt he's ever said they won the election for Sanchez though as they didn't. If you think he said different please provide me with the source and I'll ask him about it personally; he lives just up the street.

Illegals did not sway that election. Dornan represented Santa Ana, a largely hispanic community. Sanchez painted him as being anti-Mexican citing his steadfast support of California's Prop 187. Sanchez won by 984 votes. A congressional investigation found that 624 votes were that of illegal aliens. Subtract the 624 votes and the witch won by 360 votes. THAT is a fact.

28 posted on 10/15/2008 12:02:03 AM PDT by South40
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To: pissant

Who sounded the alarm first about illegal aliens? Any idea?

It was Californians. We screamed bloody murder and asked for support from our buds around the nation. And you know what Californians got for their efforts. They got folks slamming them for being racists. That’s what they got.

Who implements immigration policy bud? Californians? No, it is the President and Congress of the United States. We begged you folks to sound the alarm with us, and you folks blamed us for creating the problem.

There was no Conservative unity over this. We were Paul Revere riding across the countryside trying to sound the alarm, and when we did, folks didn’t role out to fight the enemy. They rolled out to grab the family gun and take shots at the modern day Paul Revere.

That’s it in a nutshell. Think about it.


29 posted on 10/15/2008 1:10:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: South40

Well, unfortunately that is part of the facts.

The rest of the facts are that Congress has the obligation to call a repeat election if even one vote can be proven to have been cast illegally in a Congressional district election.

If the Republican leadership had demanded it, Dornan would have gotten a new election. Instead the Republican leaders handed the victory to Sanchez unchallenged.

Half of Dornan’s district was betrayed by the Republican leadership. Hermandad Nacional that conspired to register illegal aliens, skated almost unscathed after their treachery in this election.

Their leaders should have been given prison sentences. Instead they got a small fine and were allowed to carry on their business.

BTW, Dornan lost initially by something like 750 votes. If a recount placed that figure at 984, perhaps I didn’t hear about it.


30 posted on 10/15/2008 1:16:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DoughtyOne
As you mention, we were worse than simply ignored on immigration but instead pilloried in the public arena. Despite ours being the smallest border and business crossings with Mexico and being the beachhead established for Operation GateKeeper in 1994, the border fence still isn't complete.

We see folks on FR saying CA doesn't "deserve" a bailout while we're subsidizing a number of other states in terms of taxes.

California taxpayers receive less federal funding per dollar of federal taxes paid than the average state. In 2005, California taxpayers received only 78 cents in federal expenditures for every dollar in federal taxes. In 1995, by contrast, California taxpayers were receiving 94 cents in federal expenditures for each tax dollar.

31 posted on 10/15/2008 2:21:45 AM PDT by newzjunkey (**CA** YES on Prop 4. NO on 1A-3 & 5-12 **San Diego** NO on A, B, C & S)
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To: pissant
CA has screwed the rest of the nation over? You must mean Reagan or maybe that extra 22 cents of every Californian's Fed tax dollar that isn't returned to our state.

I hope you're enjoying all those conservatives up in WA state like Gov Gregoire, Senators Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray. WA state went liberal before even CA by supporting Dukakis in 1988.

32 posted on 10/15/2008 2:57:31 AM PDT by newzjunkey (**CA** YES on Prop 4. NO on 1A-3 & 5-12 **San Diego** NO on A, B, C & S)
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Mr. Parker was only arrested because he refused to leave the building after the meeting concluded even when asked to do so by police. The lawsuit he and his wife filed was dismissed.

From further reading, it's unclear if these "diversity book bags" were required or optional. The pages briefly shown only appear to indicate a single example of families different from the wedded natural mother and father. This is an attempt to put kids from divergent circumstances on a level playing field in the classroom.

A parent must always be involved in a child's education and can easily teach their moral values and Faith in the home. You should NEVER expect other people to do this for you. You can't keep your child in a protective bubble, ignorant of the world and its ways by sending him to public school which must serve all the children of your neighbors some of who will be rich, poor, black, latino, white, immigrant, native, asian, homosexual, divorced, unmarried, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, atheist, more conservative or radical liberal. It is every parent's responsibility to prepare her children to live safely and thrive wisely in such a world.

Further, at any time the legislature and pass legislation to require teaching about homosexuals. I seem to remember Sheila Kuehl authored such a bill. It passed, I think in 2007, and Arnold vetoed.

We've had legalized homosexual marriage for a some months already, including at least the first month of the general public school year. The world hasn't ended.

33 posted on 10/15/2008 3:24:31 AM PDT by newzjunkey (**CA** YES on Prop 4. NO on 1A-3 & 5-12 **San Diego** NO on A, B, C & S)
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To: newzjunkey
You can't keep your child in a protective bubble, ignorant of the world and its ways by sending him to public school which must serve all the children of your neighbors some of who will be rich, poor, black, latino, white, immigrant, native, asian, homosexual, divorced, unmarried, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, atheist, more conservative or radical liberal.

You forgot child molesters, anarchists, former unrepentant Weathermen, wiccans, satanists, self-mutilationists, communists, and those who advocate any and all manner of sexual predisposition. Hey, as long as we're embracing diversity, might as well surround your child with the whole gamut of human debris.

Seriously, we SHOULD shelter our children from the most egregiously perverse elements of society - otherwise we criminally strip them of their innocence and childhood at a premature age. You know what innocence is, don't you? It used to be a lovely virtue. Now it's a joke that the left dismissed with derision.

34 posted on 10/15/2008 4:55:50 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: GOP Poet

Yes, San Diego remains pretty conservative and I can drive around with my McCain/Palin bumper sticker with little fear :*). But my kids still say I’m a rolling target.....lol


35 posted on 10/15/2008 7:31:17 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Randy Larsen
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..this is from 2004 but you can see where all the left's power is concentrated--note: red counties are Democrat in this map...

36 posted on 10/15/2008 8:15:20 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: South40

Yes, it is a “fact” that Christine Gregoire “won” by 130 votes in WA as well.


37 posted on 10/15/2008 9:38:24 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks for the supportive comments. Those tax return stats to the state were interesting. I appreciate you pointing them out.


38 posted on 10/15/2008 9:39:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DoughtyOne
BTW, Dornan lost initially by something like 750 votes. If a recount placed that figure at 984, perhaps I didn’t hear about it.

Loretta Sanchez (Democrat) 47,964
Robert Dornan (Republican) 46,980

A difference of 984 votes

Caifornia Secretary of State Website

39 posted on 10/15/2008 2:44:02 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

My comments stand.

The original count was something like 750 votes difference. There was a recount.


40 posted on 10/15/2008 8:58:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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