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G.M. and Chrysler Explore Merger
The New York Times ^ | October 10, 2008 | By BILL VLASIC and ANDREW ROSS SORKIN

Posted on 10/10/2008 7:56:27 PM PDT by Azzurri

DETROIT — General Motors is in preliminary talks about a possible merger with Chrysler, a deal that could drastically remake the landscape of the auto industry by reducing the Big Three of Detroit automakers to the Big Two.

The talks between G.M. and Cerberus Capital Management, the private equity firm that owns Chrysler, began more than a month ago, and the negotiations are not certain to produce a deal. Two people close to the process said the chances of a merger were “50-50” as of Friday and would most likely still take weeks to work out.

A merger would be a historic event, with two of the most iconic names in American industry coming together to survive in an increasingly difficult environment. Both have roots dating back decades in Detroit and, with Ford, long dominated the auto industry — until Japanese and other foreign car makers began making inroads into the American market.

The auto industry is being pummeled from all sides — by high gas prices that have soured consumers on profitable S.U.V.’s, by a softening economy that has scared shoppers away from showrooms, and by tight credit that is making it difficult for willing buyers to obtain loans. Both G.M. and Chrysler have been struggling with product lineups that are out of sync with consumer demand for smaller, more fuel-efficient cars.=

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; chrysler; economy; financialcrisis; generalmotors; gm; merger; transportation
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This would certainly change the landscape of the auto industry
1 posted on 10/10/2008 7:56:27 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri

Two sick men do not make one healthy man.


2 posted on 10/10/2008 7:57:42 PM PDT by Loyalist (Tory! Tory! Tory!)
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To: Azzurri

What will they call it General Goat?


3 posted on 10/10/2008 7:59:12 PM PDT by slag (reelect nobody)
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To: Loyalist

agree.

pathetic.

they’re reaching out for straws.

the unions and bad management ruined them.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 7:59:30 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Azzurri
GM just wants the Jeep products and the mini-van. The rest of what Chrysler has is worse junk than GM has already.
5 posted on 10/10/2008 8:01:49 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Azzurri
I know the issue with the Yoon-yuns, but, for the life of me, I can't see why the big three have had such a problem finding good managers. Changing strategy seemingly every quarter, putting billions into product development only to water such developments down in the execution phase, etc.

I can't say I weep for them, although some people very close to me are collecting GM pensions.

6 posted on 10/10/2008 8:02:13 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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On our way to the United States Automobile Department. One more merger to go.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 8:05:00 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Azzurri

Gentleman, we can rebuild it.

8 posted on 10/10/2008 8:08:01 PM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: Azzurri

I don’t know what they have in mind, but this looks like foolishness. GM needs to ELIMINATE brands rather than add Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep. GM should cut Pontiac, Buick, GMC, Saab and Saturn, and focus on its two best makes: Chevrolet and Cadillac.


9 posted on 10/10/2008 8:11:48 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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“On our way to the United States Automobile Department. One more merger to go.”

Who cares? Let ‘em merge. We can always buy foreign until some new company rises up to replace them.


10 posted on 10/10/2008 8:11:49 PM PDT by Tublecane
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“On our way to the United States Automobile Department. One more merger to go.”

Who cares? Let ‘em merge. We can always buy foreign until some new company rises up to replace them.


11 posted on 10/10/2008 8:11:58 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Cool ! A uncomfortable vehicle that won’t run !

How innovative.....


12 posted on 10/10/2008 8:16:06 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Clemenza

In the 90s they brought in John Smale from Proctor and Gamble, and he brought in the brand managers and all that garbage...no more cars guys, they had to hire people who had excelled at marketing Pampers or Tylenol. Of course, that was a disaster, but the SUV and light truck boom papered over it as the car divisions went on losing tons of money.

Used to be you went to Michigan or Ohio State, started at GM, was transferred to an increasingly responsible position every three years...they would pay your way through GMI for graduate school. It would weed out the bad apples and give you top shelf, experienced and tried and trued managers.

During the last 90s, you had HR walking through offices asking people to take buyouts....looking for numbers to meet a quota, and not actually realizing who was leaving.

Then you had the talented folks, like the heads of the Silverado launch and advertising campaign s taking buyouts and being lured by Toyota to launch the full-size Tundra.....which was pretty successful if you recall...


13 posted on 10/10/2008 8:16:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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They smartened up over at Chrysler. One of my family members is an engineer there seeking a buyout, but they won’t give her one.


14 posted on 10/10/2008 8:20:43 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Tublecane

I agree.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 8:22:08 PM PDT by Leisler
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This should be rather cheap. What’s Chrysler’s stock price?


16 posted on 10/10/2008 8:22:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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Chrysler is private.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 8:29:13 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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That sounds like an interesting back story on the Silverado -> Tundra thing. Got any articles or anything on that particular brain drain?


18 posted on 10/10/2008 8:31:02 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: slag

GM Chrysler. At least we’ll have another replacement for a swear I don’t want to use.


19 posted on 10/10/2008 8:32:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Its kinda sad, you guys got to remember chrysler was owned by dbag(appropriately named) they raided anything of value chrysler had to offer and took it to Germany. Chrylser got the 300 out of the deal, it is a good car for the type it is. Cerberus has only owned chrysler a year I was hoping to watch the turn around. they have already made improvements to lots of vehicles. I just ordered an 09 Patriot. Chrysler is privately owned and supposedly has 10billion in cash, someone said gm could be bought for 3.8billion....sooooo draw your conculsions. People can bitch an moan about losing car companies but they need to look at the unions they are bleeding them dry now the workers will be out of work.


20 posted on 10/10/2008 8:32:34 PM PDT by 09Patriot
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