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Primary school to serve pupils halal meat whether they're Muslim or not
Daily Mail UK ^ | Oct. 10, 2008

Posted on 10/10/2008 1:19:07 PM PDT by Alouette

All pupils at a primary school face being served halal meat at lunchtime whether they are Muslim or not, it emerged today.

Dale Primary, which has a large proportion of Asians among its 550 pupils, is consulting parents about the controversial move.

Under the plans pupils would only be offered Islamic-approved meals on days when meat is on the menu to 'avoid cross-contamination'.

For meat to be classified halal, a Muslim must have slaughtered the animal from which it came by a single cut to the throat and without stunning it first.

A prayer, including the words 'Allah is great', is said while single cut to the throat all the blood is drained.

The school, Derby's biggest primary, provides its own catering after opting out of the city council system.

Head teacher Linda Sullivan has written to parents, carers and staff asking them if the school should offer halal meat to pupils.

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To: Above My Pay Grade
IMO, a Christian knowingly eating halal meat may be disobeying the instruction in Acts 15 against eating things sacrificed to idols.

Exactly what I was thinking. Acts 15:23-29

With them they sent the following letter: The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings. We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul—men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.

Acts 21:25

As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.

And Finally Revelation 2:12-20

To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality. Likewise you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.

To the angel of the church in Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze. I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first. Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

But 1 Cor. 8 says

So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

But not everyone knows this. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat such food they think of it as having been sacrificed to an idol, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.
There is an argument for not having the option, but as long as the Christian does not believe that there are any other gods, and that the meat couldn't really be sacrificed to the idol because the idol is a figment of some peoples' imaginations, then there is no problem. That said, why should the government support one strict interpretation of Islam over a strict interpretation of Christianity--especially since Christianity is much more common?
41 posted on 10/10/2008 2:15:27 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yeah, I am gonna go out and shoot me one of them halals.

Do they have horns?

( Thanks for your kind post. I should have put a "sarc" on my first post.)

42 posted on 10/10/2008 2:15:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: SoftballMominVA

It’s certainly optional, but the “preferred practice” is to avoide it:

“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

Halal meat is “polluted by idols” by that prayer.

Ergo, avoid it.


43 posted on 10/10/2008 2:16:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Dinah Lord
But the thing that really got me was how the place stunk of shi&. Serious shi&! Allah shi&bar. No halal beef for me!

roflmao.

44 posted on 10/10/2008 2:23:27 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: antiRepublicrat

Kinda the way they kill human prisoners....


45 posted on 10/10/2008 2:26:04 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Alouette

For the Christians I would kick up a fuss and tell them I am offended. That it is against my religion to eat meat that has been sacrificed to idols. It is Biblical and in Acts.

They are fools if they dont push it.


46 posted on 10/10/2008 2:27:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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To: Alouette

Makes sense. Islamic law rules the United Kingdom
on the islands — and at sea.


47 posted on 10/10/2008 2:29:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Boagenes
I Corinthians 8

As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
8But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 9But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 10For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 11And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. 13Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

48 posted on 10/10/2008 2:32:06 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Alouette

This gives job preferences to Muslim butchers.


49 posted on 10/10/2008 2:33:11 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Alouette

A weird religion, in a weird world, demonstrates that we live in a weird, weird world.


50 posted on 10/10/2008 2:35:22 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (... Character counts ... Far more so than experience.)
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To: Alouette

So they kill the animal in the same manner the terrorist kill christians, jews, and their fellow muslims for that matter and my kids have to eat it. Where the hell’s PETA.


51 posted on 10/10/2008 2:42:12 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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.. send em a couple thousand cases
52 posted on 10/10/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: 353FMG

See my post 29. Sheesh! ;)


53 posted on 10/10/2008 2:45:59 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge)
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To: Manly Warrior
Kinda the way they kill human prisoners....

Nah, their religion requires that with animals the killing slice is done with a very sharp blade and the cut is done with one very quick and clean motion. They don't have any prohibition against making humans suffer by using a dull pocket knife and taking five minutes.

54 posted on 10/10/2008 2:50:43 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Alouette

Nice way to cut all non-muslim food providers out of the contract bidding.


55 posted on 10/10/2008 2:55:55 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Alouette
For meat to be classified halal, a Muslim must have slaughtered the animal from which it came by a single cut to the throat and without stunning it first.

PETA's not going to like that. Bridget Bardot has already spoken out but she'd opposing Palin and I assume McCain in the 2008 US election (not that she has a vote) but this will continue to be the new norm. CHANGE.

56 posted on 10/10/2008 2:57:20 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: DemonDeac

I left England because of this mess

I was determining not to raise my kids under a radical left wing PC life

course now Obama is here and I am doing what I can to let people know what danger the far left is


57 posted on 10/10/2008 3:08:24 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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Well, we serve them at GITMO, why not the schools.

58 posted on 10/10/2008 3:14:01 PM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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To: Alouette

The UK should stop falsifying census numbers.


59 posted on 10/10/2008 3:28:02 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: sofaman; Alouette
"okay, you asked already. So I’ll add .... Everyone, including Muslims can eat kosher food ... it qualifies as Halal. So make it kosher and everyone can eat."

That would be great, moreh! But what shochet would want to live in the UK to try to compete with Muslims under the Lawrence-of-Arabia adorations of Brits? It could be a very dangerous assignment.


60 posted on 10/10/2008 3:44:03 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Noachide follower)
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