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Obama's "Radicalism" a Growing Chasm on Road to Victory
Townhall ^ | October 10, 2008 | Diana West

Posted on 10/09/2008 10:40:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Names Ash Housewares

61 posted on 10/10/2008 9:40:20 PM PDT by jddqr (If you live in a swing state, VOTE FOR MCCAIN. Otherwise, vote your conscience!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Your already decided it’s lost. You cannot see a win you said. You have kneeled before the MSM polling gods and given them that power. I will not kneel.

I don't give a damn what you do, to be perfectly honest, but you seem to think I'm sitting around wondering what you think about me. I don't. Bye.

62 posted on 10/10/2008 9:40:36 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
Please give me examples of polls of registered voters which are known NOT to have cooked numbers.

(E.g. not just the numbers of Dems vs Pubs, but any mention of quotas or weighting factors...)

I have read over the past week some other pollsters point out that the polls simply do not exhibit volatility on the short time frames over which we have seen swings in this campaign--that this is indicative of shenanigans or secret sauce on the part of the pollsters.

Cheers!

63 posted on 10/10/2008 10:03:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: patriot08
If anybody is to take him down, it’s going to have to be us.

Amen. But emailing the McCain campaign with ideas and berating them for not doing what you tell them to do is completely counter-productive.

You want to win? Focus your efforts on spreading the word about Obama's radical ties to as many people as you possibly can. THAT will work.

Here's something to start with:

Farrakhan: When Obama speaks, the Messiah is talking.
64 posted on 10/10/2008 10:12:31 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Please give me examples of polls of registered voters which are known NOT to have cooked numbers.

How much time do you think I have on my hands? I work with a SWARM of libs I have to deprogram!

The other morning two of them were talking about the election, and I wish I had it recorded--they were ACTUALLY quoting ad material back and forth to each other as if they'd both done independent reading about the election. I just laughed at them--I had heard almost every line they said in ads!

65 posted on 10/10/2008 10:14:37 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Now, please step aside. The adults with backbone will take it from here.

Well said.

All the defeatists on FR need to go curl up under a desk and weep softly or something. They make me sick.
66 posted on 10/10/2008 10:14:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Hit POST too soon.

I look at tons of polls, and the first thing I do after seeing the results is look at the party breakdown. If it's insane--like the one with Obama up NINE that was some ridiculous number like 53-Dems, 29-Reps--I just move on.

67 posted on 10/10/2008 10:15:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: Darkwolf377
Why would someone else's opinion cause you "despair"? How is that anything approaching an adult control of one's own emotions?

Why are you even here? Why not go spread your loser stink on some Obama site somewhere?
68 posted on 10/10/2008 10:16:06 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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To: Darkwolf377

So long and take your deafeatism with you.

I will fight, I will never stop, and I will do so the rest of my life.

POLLS BE DAMNED.

I WILL be able to look myself in the mirror.
I will know, if Obama wins by a hair, I DID everything could.

Can YOU?

Can you posting defeatist content and demotiviating others?


69 posted on 10/10/2008 10:57:38 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: jddqr
I here she is on loan from the Justice League..........

Pollster Zod doesn't stand a chance.

70 posted on 10/10/2008 11:14:08 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Can you posting defeatist content and demotiviating others?

What a baby.

If you're so weak-willed that someone having a different opinion FRIGHTENS you to this extent, good luck to you. Your life must be so hard to get through if you throw a hissy fit over one person in a thousand here expressing a differing opinion.

Not one person will be "demotivated" by the appearance of a differing opinion.

And here I thought the free exchange of ideas was the reason we LOVE this country--not the robotic mental-marching - in-lockstep of the DUmmies.

Wow, get a spine, willya? And when you see one of my posts--don't read it. Or at least don't reply to it--it's wearying reading the whining of such faint-hearted wimps.

71 posted on 10/10/2008 11:14:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: Darkwolf377

My spine is fine.

Yours says we will lose.

I will bet you $50.00 donation to the RNC that McCain wins.


72 posted on 10/10/2008 11:19:03 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
My spine is fine. Yours says we will lose.

Uh, spines don't "say" anything. They don't speak.

I will bet you $50.00 donation to the RNC that McCain wins.

I'll take that bet. And seriously--I hope I get a mail message from you asking me to pay up. Really, I do!

73 posted on 10/10/2008 11:21:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: Darkwolf377

I will be working hard to win that bet.


74 posted on 10/10/2008 11:23:48 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I’ll be working hard to lose it.


75 posted on 10/10/2008 11:26:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: Darkwolf377
That's good, but there are other considerations.

Look for example, Georgia, which is as red as they get, but which RealClearPolitics calls "leaning" McCain.

The most recent poll there is Insider Advantage, which gives McCain as up by merely 3:

© InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position 2008 InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position polls are conducted by telephone with registered voters. Like all other major polling firms, data are weighted by age, race, gender and political party affiliation.

The weightings are NOT LISTED.

You can find the same almost everywhere, no matter where you go.

Cheers!

76 posted on 10/11/2008 5:15:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Of course. And some of the polls they put in these mixes are new, some days or weeks old. And they mix results from polls which ALWAYS use differing methodologies and samples and dates.

I'm aware of all this. But I still don't see the sunshine some here claim to see.

77 posted on 10/11/2008 5:17:14 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Emotional responses get ignored)
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To: Darkwolf377
I think your analysis is right.
There are way too many Americans that will only give about 5 minutes of their time up to "research" the candidates before making their selection.
78 posted on 10/11/2008 5:22:27 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake religion for God.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Garbage in Garbage Out.

Mixing a lot of slanted polls will not do any more for the final results than bundling sub-prime and Alt-A loans did for the bank's mortgage-backed securities. :-)

Look at McCain-Palin's crowds on the ground compared to Obama's. When Obama draws 10,000 or more there is usually a kegger or an A-list celebrity with him to draw crowds.

Listen to the newscasts of his speeches, he is not constantly interrupted by LOUD applause; look at the people in the bleachers behind him. They are NOT fired up.

And when people on the ground in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania report in, they say that in heavily Dem districts you see yard signs for the House/Senate Dem but NOT for Obama.

Put these things together.

Cheers!

79 posted on 10/11/2008 5:22:42 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Darkwolf377

We’ll you’ve taken a contrarian point of view, now quantify it. Gives us your analysis besides your own hunches why you think the polls are spot on.


80 posted on 10/11/2008 5:51:27 AM PDT by pburgh01
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