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Dow falls more than 600 points; markets in free-fall
msn.com ^ | 10/09-2008 | By Charley Blaine and Elizabeth Strott

Posted on 10/09/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT by Red Badger

The Dow Jones industrials fell under 9,000 this afternoon for the first time since the summer of 2003 as investor confidence that markets would stabilize appeared to collapse. At 3:40 p.m. ET, the blue chips were down 641 points, or 6.9%, to 8,617. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was off 74 points, or 7.5% to 911. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 94 points, or 5.4%, to 1,646. The S&P fell under a closely monitored support level of 960. A support level is important because it is supposed to trigger new buying. At those levels, the crash of 2008 has left the Dow 39% below its record close of 14,164.53 and the S&P 500 down 41% from its record close of 1,565.15. Ironically, both records were set exactly one year ago today.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; 401k; bailout; bankinglist; democrats; democratslie; djia; dow; financelist; money; moneylist; obama; obamadeceit; obamaeffect; obamalies; pelosi; stock; thankademocrat; wallstreet
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To: PEACE ENFORCER
How many merchants load their shelves with holiday products purchased with commercial paper? Given the financial situation, is it a good bet that such goods would sell well enough to repay the paper?
341 posted on 10/09/2008 6:10:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Misterioso
I would recommend "The Creature from Jekyll Island". It's light in some areas, and he stretches it a bit in others, but all-in-all a solid overview / history of exactly what we are suffering through today. In fact, I'd suggest reading it as soon as you can. The first 200 pages might as well be printed in the newspaper with the names changed to the current leaders as the parallels to recent history are so perfectly matched.

We cannot sustain our economic system in this manner. It has to change. My fear is that there are large numbers of members of Congress that actually do not understand the complexity of the problem and the pending transfer of economic power they are presiding over. They have the power to resist, but most will grasp the problem in hindsight when only a bloody standoff will be able to shake the chains...
342 posted on 10/09/2008 6:17:06 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: pissant
By 2012, we’ll have a real option. The FALCON Party

Sounds good to me.

If this election turns out the way I fear it will, it probably means the death of the Republican Party.

343 posted on 10/09/2008 6:17:18 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: mass55th
I turned 52 this year. My dad passed on at 73...relatively young for a family with typical longevity of 80-105. I figure to be working another 15 to 20 years. I still work 60 to 70 hour weeks. That's been the norm for almost 30 years.
344 posted on 10/09/2008 6:18:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Sports mentality...Your team vs. mine...People are so easily distracted.


345 posted on 10/09/2008 6:19:44 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Who’s going to be fighting each other in this civil war?

Ants and grasshoppers.

346 posted on 10/09/2008 6:20:49 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: unixfox

Please don’t take this wrong, as I love America for it all it represents and all it has advanced in our World, but the Founding Fathers made a very significant mistake. Giving Congress the power to coin money was a good idea, but was too general and allowed succeeding generations to distort the original intent, not unlike the Second Amendment.

But by giving Congress essentially a blank check to borrow money, they made a fatal error that opened the door to repeated intrusions by a central bank. You have to remember that not all members of the Constitutional Convention were opposed to a central bank. In fact, many fought strongly for it. This compromise was the proverbial ‘foot in the door’ that has come to haunt us so today...


347 posted on 10/09/2008 6:26:26 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: o2bfree

“I want Barney Frank and Chris Dodd to share a jail cell.”

I like your thinking.


348 posted on 10/09/2008 6:31:13 PM PDT by bricklayer
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To: savedbygrace

I appreciate what you said...;) I just see it so clearly. It is so overwhelmingly obvious what is wrong, yet it is never addressed. We are fast becoming worker bees in a global factory, destined by our inattention to important things.


349 posted on 10/09/2008 6:31:27 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: Xenophon450

A lot of history is playing out this very day. Lots of men and women have dedicated their lives, families, and fortunes to bringing about these changes for hundreds of years. It’s interesting to observe, though I passionately disagree with the direction...

I am curious what additional entertainment is going to arise tomorrow as all of the World’s major financial players, plus the IMF and World Bank gather in Washington to discuss this situation. It really doesn’t bode well as I expect massive bailouts, massive inflation, and the potential for devastating economic measures.


350 posted on 10/09/2008 6:36:34 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: CRBDeuce

It’s not the size of the Federal Government. It’s the free minting of worthless currency passed around the World to shore up financial institutions and governments whose very charters doom them to a constant deficit. We are very kind to foot this bill, but we pay dearly for it in the sacrifice of our freedom.

McCain alone cannot fix this mess, and I’m not seeing too many indicators he is going to try...


351 posted on 10/09/2008 6:41:06 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: pissant

yeah but it needs a better name. like...Conservative, perhaps?


352 posted on 10/09/2008 6:43:18 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Betcha they're good. Why shouldn't they be? Their one mistake was giving up me!)
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To: ninonitti

I wonder what the balance is? A true free market allows the failings of one man to take advantage of another if they so choose. I want there to be a free market, but with an unlimited supply of currency fed into the system and a compliant government, it seems we run into predictable problems.


353 posted on 10/09/2008 6:44:51 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: ari-freedom

There already are several parties with conservative in the name....all floundering in nothingness.


354 posted on 10/09/2008 6:46:46 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Buying opportunities galore.

My thoughts exactly...but just *who* is doing the buying? Cui bono?

And I can;t help but wonder what Soros is up to lately? He collapsed Bank of England a while back IIRC....his puppets are already out defending him saying it doesn't make sense that he would have bet on a world market downturn...I'm not convinced.
355 posted on 10/09/2008 6:50:01 PM PDT by Khepri (Georgia is a Soros operation.)
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To: pissant

ok but a party named after a bird? it will get lost in the clouds


356 posted on 10/09/2008 6:51:57 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Betcha they're good. Why shouldn't they be? Their one mistake was giving up me!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Obama is up in the polls and stocks keep dropping.

How convenient....and just when Obama ads are all over the TV linking McCain to Bush's failed economic policies...
357 posted on 10/09/2008 6:53:28 PM PDT by Khepri (Georgia is a Soros operation.)
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To: Fishrrman

“Perhaps it’s less of a “crash” that we’re seeing, than it is a “return to the baseline” of true values....”

It’s been very obvious to me that the politicians, including Obama and McCain, are trying so hard to protect those that took these huge risks and played with the money. The prices of homes are returning to realistic values and when the prices come down to the point that people are willing to pay those prices, the housing market will stabilize.

That is a supply vs. demand market but our govt is more interested in protecting those that took risks than in promoting an honest economy based on supply and demand.


358 posted on 10/09/2008 6:54:45 PM PDT by LaurenD
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To: ari-freedom

I don’t think so. The falcon is quite the predator. (It’s an acronym anyway). And the platform is pure rock ribbed Reaganism.

http://falconparty.com/


359 posted on 10/09/2008 6:58:40 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Cold Heat
the primary mistake made by government at the time was NOT to intervene

Im sure I have no idea what you're talking about - quite possibly you too.

they have not even begun yet to implement the 700B part of the bailout.

Umm, I also have no clue what gave you this idea. According to the people I listen to on the radio, they've already given out MORE than the 700Billion and just aren't asking any more.

360 posted on 10/09/2008 7:01:34 PM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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