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Dow falls more than 600 points; markets in free-fall
msn.com ^ | 10/09-2008 | By Charley Blaine and Elizabeth Strott

Posted on 10/09/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT by Red Badger

The Dow Jones industrials fell under 9,000 this afternoon for the first time since the summer of 2003 as investor confidence that markets would stabilize appeared to collapse. At 3:40 p.m. ET, the blue chips were down 641 points, or 6.9%, to 8,617. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was off 74 points, or 7.5% to 911. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 94 points, or 5.4%, to 1,646. The S&P fell under a closely monitored support level of 960. A support level is important because it is supposed to trigger new buying. At those levels, the crash of 2008 has left the Dow 39% below its record close of 14,164.53 and the S&P 500 down 41% from its record close of 1,565.15. Ironically, both records were set exactly one year ago today.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; 401k; bailout; bankinglist; democrats; democratslie; djia; dow; financelist; money; moneylist; obama; obamadeceit; obamaeffect; obamalies; pelosi; stock; thankademocrat; wallstreet
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To: Red Badger

The video in post one is at ...

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... and I’ve sent it to many on my mailing list with a note asking them to let me know if they don’t want any more such material.

Need you guess my intentions?


201 posted on 10/09/2008 2:05:56 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (... Character counts ... Far more so than experience.)
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To: Red Badger
Not sure how accurate it is, but this was in my e-mail today . . .

If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in Delta Airlines one year ago, you would have $49.00 today. If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in AIG one year ago, you would have $33.00 today. If you had purchased $1,000 of shares in Lehman Brothers one year ago, you would have $0.00 today. But, if you had purchased $1,000 worth of beer/soda one year ago, drunk all the beer/soda, then turned in the aluminum cans for the recycling refund, you would have received $214.00.

Based on the above, the best current investment plan is to drink heavily & recycle. It is called the 401-Keg.


202 posted on 10/09/2008 2:07:28 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

God knows I’m no financial expert. But I think that around December, after the elections are over and with the buying season upon, that things will turn around.

Might be slow but the Dow will rise to slightly above 10,000 by the end of this year.

It’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Yes, still a loss but by then things will start growing; the adjusting will be over.


203 posted on 10/09/2008 2:08:42 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: conservativepoet
A Democrat scandal if I’ve ever seen one.

Except for the first time, a party appears ready to ride a scandal into absolute power over this nation.

204 posted on 10/09/2008 2:09:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Red Badger

This is so frustrating. Not that the market is down. But nobody seems to get that there are only two ways out of a recession: 1) inflation; 2) business tax relieve.

Too bad Bush and McCain flunked econ 101!!!


205 posted on 10/09/2008 2:11:05 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida (Unless you are nice and thoughtful you will be ignored. Write in Thomas Sowell.)
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To: Former Dodger
If Obama and the communists gain power at the very moment our capitalist system collapses, America will become a socialist world power. Kiss your culture, heritage and wealth goodby. When the communists take over they suspend the law and kill all of the former rich people. Then they consolidate power. The American masses are already dumbed down so, once the intelligentsia are dead, they control the system.

This could get bad.

206 posted on 10/09/2008 2:11:38 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: chimera

After hour trading....


207 posted on 10/09/2008 2:11:45 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (One Needs to Have the Capability of Using Deadly Force at Any Moment.....:))
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To: alloysteel
Have we lost 25% of the original peak yet? Seems like we should be a little past that.

just a little. On Oct 10, 2007 the DJI was 14,015, now it's 8579. That's a 38.8% decline.

(Week of) Aug 26 '29 the dow was at 380, by Nov. 1, 29 it was 245. About a 36% drop in two months.

The week of Aug. 4, 2008, the dow was at 11,734, if it drops to 7510 by the end of the first week in November, it will have dropped about the same percentage, in roughly the same time period. That's only 1070 points, and considering today's drop of 678 points, who would want to bet the farm it won't drop 1,000 more by then.

208 posted on 10/09/2008 2:12:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Fishtalk
“God knows I’m no financial expert. But I think that around December, after the elections are over and with the buying season upon, that things will turn around.

Might be slow but the Dow will rise to slightly above 10,000 by the end of this year.

It’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Yes, still a loss but by then things will start growing; the adjusting will be over.”

I hope you are right. I know we won't be spending much this “buying season” because we've decided to “delever” just like Wall Street and the rest of the globe. Holding cash and seriously considering gold in case the currency collapses.

209 posted on 10/09/2008 2:14:13 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: onemiddleamerican
Cavuto is discussing Capital Gains Tax increase under Obama regime maybe making some folks pulling out of the markets now.

Don't know about now, but if Obama wins that will cause a real post-election downdraft.

210 posted on 10/09/2008 2:14:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red Badger
The problem is that the Stock Market has been overhyped in price for the last 30 years. At today's close the P/E on the S&P 500 is 11.56 or there abouts. Many claim this would be low. For instance instance, the following chart was published in June 2006 claiming then that S&P 500 P/E Ratio at Historical Low

But this was a lie. Here is the longer historical trend. What we see is that the Greenspan bubble years, the S&P has been overpriced, by a factor of 3 at its peak. So, today's close is below the long term average, but the long term shows that the S&P500 can stay below the long term average for as long as a decade.


211 posted on 10/09/2008 2:16:14 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: comebacknewt
"7000 for now.

After the Obambi capital gains tax increase passes the Congress with an overwhelming majority, 5000.

And after obambi's that 0.7% GDP to the UN for the "poor"....make that a 4,000

212 posted on 10/09/2008 2:17:13 PM PDT by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Got a mirror?

Show these two charts to everyone you know. There is no doubt at all--the market is selling off because of Obama.


213 posted on 10/09/2008 2:17:39 PM PDT by montag813
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To: calex59

“What a putz Bozo is.”

Well, the man is a liar and has no loyalty to anything except himself.


214 posted on 10/09/2008 2:17:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Clinton got no blame for 9/11 and Bush will get all the blame for this financial mess. Well, since Bush doesn't seem to think it worth his time to defend himself, I guess he just gets to eat it. He cares more about "let history decide" than protecting his political capital so he just might be able to do something useful.

Awwww, look for Bush to come out tomorrow and explain "We took a thumpin'"

215 posted on 10/09/2008 2:18:19 PM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 100-Jan. 20--and counting)
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To: Red Badger

I just keep wondering if this isn’t some sort of terrorist act. Here we are putting our shampoo into little plastic bags and stripping for the TSA in expectation of another air attack when, all the while, they were wearing Gucci on Wall Street and bombing us from within!

These enemies of America are sooo clever!


216 posted on 10/09/2008 2:18:30 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: cliniclinical
Why is it that the devastating effects of a fiat currency and a central bank is never discussed?

Our foounding fathers warned us about a central banking system. Looks like they were right.

AGAIN!!

217 posted on 10/09/2008 2:18:33 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: kidd
When’s the last time we had a good tar and feather session? With real tar and real feathers.

Not practical today. Use tree sap, the sweeter the better, and fiberglass.

218 posted on 10/09/2008 2:18:41 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Cramer is a FOOL


219 posted on 10/09/2008 2:19:18 PM PDT by JFC
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To: Petruchio
I was going to cash in my aluminum cans (starting to overflow the spot I stash them) but now think I will keep them. If we hyper inflate I can sell them and pay off my credit cards.
220 posted on 10/09/2008 2:21:39 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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