Posted on 10/03/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by mathprof
At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen, launching a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and United States Capitol.
Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Ayers hosted for Obamas first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.
Their relationship has become a touchstone for Obamas opponents. Video clips on YouTube, including a new ad that aired Friday, juxtapose Obamas face with the young Mr. Ayers or grainy shots of the bombings. In a televised interview last spring, Senator John McCain, his Republican rival, asked: How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?
More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as a guy who lives in my neighborhood and somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.
A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8..
Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
“Innoculation article. Dumped on Fri. night. Im surprised they didnt set off a bomb somewhere so they could bury the story.”
Good call.
Well you put the NYT to shame.
From everything I’ve read it’s very possible that Hussein himself was a member of the Weather Underground in their last days: His extremely close propinquity to Ayers and Dohrn at Columbia University in the early ‘80’s suggests that he knew them there, and the fact that he followed them to Chicago and went to work at the same law firm as Dohrn spells C-O-L-L-A-B-O-R-A-T-I-O-N from a loooong time ago, in my book...
After reading that, do you often wonder just how distorted a view of the world we are REALLY seeing?
I can’t go to England, Germany, Iraq, etc....
I have to rely on first hand internet accounts or 43rd hand emails to know what is happening. I know that I cannot trust a single word the MSM puts out. THink about that. That is about 95 % of what we see on TV, hear on the radio, or read in print.
Really makes me wonder what the world is really like out there.
I put up some more links on another thread that ties Obama to ACORN before he went to law school and also to the Woods Foundation when they were giving away money to the Arab American Action Network. It alleged that Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director of the Woods Fund alongside a confessed domestic terrorist and that, during Obamas term, the Chicago-based nonprofit groups board voted to provide $75,000 in grants to the controversial Arab American Action Network. (http://bobmccarty.com/2008/02/27/woods-fund-president-silent-on-obama-votes/)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2097173/posts?page=148#148
That is one strange video
I have been browsing looking for info. Has this been mentioned (prolly has, but just in case)?
) Weather Underground leader Bernadine Dohrn, who made it to #2 on the FBI’s Most Wanted List in the early 1970’s, worked with Michelle Obama at the law firm Sidley Austin from 1984-1988 (if memory serves). Some believe Michelle introduced Barack to Dohrn when he came to work for the firm in 1988. Were Michelle and Bernadine friends, as some have suggested? How close were they? Did Barack become friends with Dohrn at this time, and how aware was he of her revolutionary views and past?
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=57409
Good find/work -
Here are some research links that may be helpful:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/bernadinedohrn
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/dohrn
The articles and the info have multiple sources but I have just listed the one source for each. MSM cannot even seem to find the one source. Some people have been digging hard but they are internet people and the MSM sounds like crickets.
This article needs read —
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/the-trojan-candidate/. It explains a lot and tracks Obama and his family.
Excerpt: From her home in Kansas Anns parents moved to Seattle, Washington, then known as quite the hotbed of communist party activity. Ann Dunham attended Mercer Island High School where many of her teachers had been investigated by the House Un-american Activities Committee, some listed as known members of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). In 1960 the Dunhams moved to Hawaii.
Both of Anns parents seem to have also had communist leanings, and the move to Hawaii furthered that contact with members of the CPUSA. As described below, the Communist Party was active and had a strategic interest in establishing a foothold in Hawaii.
Ann Dunham met Barack Sr. in a Russian language class in 1960, and quickly became involved with a radical discussion group described by Representative Niel Abercrombie in a March 27, 2007 article in the Chicago Tribune. Abercrombie attended the University of Hawaii at the same time as Ann Dunham and Barack Sr..
Excerpt: In 1989, Bill Ayers and his father Tom Ayers got Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin, where he met Michelle Robinson. Recall that Bill Ayers wife, Bernadette Dohrn, also worked at Sidley & Austin and was the one who hired Michelle. Recall that Michelle could be considered a black separatist radical in her own right from college days!
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More on the connection — Looks like Michelle Robinson knew them before she knew Obama:
False. Why is the media so reluctant to explore the CAC relationship?
At the risk of being redundant, sometime in 1987 Bill and Bernadine returned home to Chicago, where both had family. Michelle likely already knew both through her Robinson family ties and then in her 1988 work at Sidley Austin, where Bernardine was also employed. It is likely that Barack at least knew of Bill Ayers because he was already involving himself among with the Ayers family and their players in the community. Bill Ayers operated in relative obscurity until February 2008 when his ties to Barack and Michelle Obama became a matter of discussion in Baracks presidential aspirations.
As a community organizer in Chicago from 1985 to 1988 Barack Obama received funding from and worked with numerous groups, such as Developing Communities Project. Bill Ayers joined in this arena upon his return in 1987 through his own group, Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs). They both surely crossed paths as Ayers father, Tom, provided funding to Barack and Bill through Chicago United, a group of businessmen concerned about race and education issues in Chicago. Tom Ayers was once CEO of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) (Steve Diamond, Global Labor and Politics, June 18, 2008). Michelle, the Robinson daughter, continued her own involvement but details are murky at best. Barack Obama shows up again in Chicago after graduating from Harvard Law School, ends up at Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, and joins the Woods Fund board, 1993, as a freshly minted 32 year old law school graduate, where he remained through 2002 and continued association with until gaining a seat in the U.S. Senate. Bill Ayers formally joined the board in 1999 but had ties throughout the earlier years, including receiving funds from the group.
Anyway, in 1993 Bill began organizing the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Despite his unrepentant terrorist past he succeeded in securing nearly $50 million from Annenberg Challenge and immediately named Barack as his co-chair. Together over the next five years they spent at least $110 million for radical school reform in Chicago (Steve Diamond, Global Labor and Politics, June 18, 2008 and August 18, 2008). Then, or shortly afterward, the remains of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was handed over to Chicago Public Education Fund.
This was a small circle of people, families, and businesses. They were figuratively partners in crime, Chicagos political mafia enriching themselves through their political position, through federal, local, and state funding, and through their positions and funds given from private organizations, especially, of immediately focus here, from the Woods Fund and Annenberg Challenge. It is likely that there are other organizations and people involved and this needs to be explored further. Stanley Kurtz, Steve Diamond, and others are now beginning to look into what Annenberg Challenge did with its more than $160 million in private and federal dollars.
But first, lets get back to Barack, Bill, and Bernadine. Again, Michelle plays at least a bit role in this but to what extent is still unclear. Over the years Barack, Bill, Bernadine, and Michelle show up together, along with other Chicago figures that include Rev. Wright, Minister Farrakhan, Rev. Meeks, Rev. Pfleger, Sen. Jones, and many, many more. Throughout this Barack also had his early ties with friend, businessman, and political financier Tony Rezko and Rezkos partners and associates. And finally, lets also not forget organizations that received funding from Barack and Bill, such as:
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)
Arab American Action Network (AAAN) founded by husband and wife Rashid and Mona Khalidi.
Maoist Mike Klonsky, another terrorist member of the Weatherman
Children and Family Justice Center, Bernardines organization.
Trinity Unity Church and Rev. Wright.
bttt
Couldn't make it past the first sentence:
"At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen..."
The Weathermen were more than just "anti-Vietnam War", they were PRO communist. They actually met with the enemy.
From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield
"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' He said, 'I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...' "
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0
Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."-New York Times, August 24, 2003:
Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
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Weather Underground Organization linked to North Vietnamese and Cuban governments, KGB (my title)
[420 pages in all on pdf]
Source: FBI, via Freedom of Information Act
In 1976, the FBI's Chicago Field Office prepared a summary which described the activities of the Weather Underground Organization, also known as Weathermen. This organization described itself as a revolutionary organization of communist men and women. The FBI's analysis of its motivations, beliefs, and international travels are outlined in this summary.
[some excerpts from the 1976 report linking the organization to foreign governments...]
From the moment in October, 1967, when Radio Hanoi announced the formation of the South Vietnamese Peoples Committee for Solidarity with American People (by the National Liberation Front (NLF), the political arm of the Viet Cong) with the objective of establishing relations with "progressive organizations and individuals in the United States," a political front was enjoined in behalf of the national interests of the Democratic Republic of North Vietnam (DRV) (and the NLF), the purpose of which was to intensify the anti-war sentiment in the United States.
From the initial meeting between the Vietnamese and leading anti-war activists held in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia, in November, 1967, to the July, 1969, meeting with leading Weatherpeople held in Havana, Cuba, the influence of Vietnamese representatives on the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) leadership became sharply pronounced. At the same time, the example of the Cuban revolution became the guide for the emerging American student revolutionary. With an increasing number of trips to Havana where the youthful revolutionary could learn at first hand how to create revolution, the influence of Cuba on the developing WUO [Weather Underground Organization] was enormous.
The WUO obtained their revolutionary methodology from the Cubans and Vietnamese and, importantly, put into practice what they had learned from them. The Weathermen, of course, did not just happen to come about during the June, 1969, SDS National Convention. They fully admit their radical heritage began during experiences gained in SDS and as shown herein their international contacts with representatives of the DRV and NLF which began in 1967 increased their anti-imperialist consciousness so that by 1969 they had solidified their revolutionary commitment to include the maximum optimum of armed struggle. So, when Huynh Van Ba, representative of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), instructed the WUO to "look for the person who fights hardest against the cops...Don't look for the one who says the best thing. Look for the one who fights," the campus base was forgotten and the WUO began to recruit the greasers and assorted oddments who had displayed their hatred of authority in direct combat with police.
http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather.htm
From HumanEvents.com, April 29, 2008:
"By all accounts, he [Obama friend and associate, Bill Ayers] was a ferocious, violent, revolutionary Marxist in his halcyon days as a Weatherman leader. He and his Weatherman bombers were enamored of Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Mao Tse-tung -- indeed, all the murderous heroes on the Left. Referring to the Weatherman members in August 1969, he said (according to the FBI): 'Were revolutionary Communists.'
He got off on the groups multiple explosions, too, and discusses them rather lovingly in his memoir.
Ideal Bombing Weather:
'Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,' he writes (although he concedes it was really a group effort). 'The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.' (p. 256 in the 2003 edition.)
Article: Obama and His Weatherman Friends
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26243
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
March 6, 1970: "three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808
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"The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events
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Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!
"Imperialism. Im against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolutiona revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good must win.
We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.
Source: Bill Ayers' own website:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/
"a better world is both possible and necessary"
Looks to me like Bill Ayers stole (or borrowed) this phrase from Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Both the Weather Underground and RCP have roots in the radical Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) organization.
"The following is an excerpt from an historic talk by Chairman Bob Avakian, soon to be available on video and DVD from Three Q Productions-REVOLUTION: Why It's Necessary, Why It's Possible, What It's All About. This talk, delivered in 2003, followed by questions and answers, is a wide- ranging revolutionary journey, covering many topics."
http://rwor.org/a/1238/introbaspeech.htm
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Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
Revolution #63, October 1, 2006
Interview with Bill Ayers:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html
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From Investor's Business Daily (IBD), August 27, 2008:
"Ayers, now a tenured distinguished professor of education at UIC, works to educate teachers in socialist revolutionary ideology, urging that it be passed on to impressionable students.
One of Ayer's descriptions for a course called 'Improving Learning Environments' says prospective K-12 teachers need to 'be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and ... be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, teaching for social justice and liberation.
The Annenberg papers are quite extensive 132 boxes containing 947 file folders with 70 linear feet of material. They undoubtedly contain more surprises regarding Obama's relationship with Ayers, one of many relationships Obama has sought to hide.'..."
Article: Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845
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[Obama] is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers
(article typo has Ayers instead of Obama)
In late 1993, Bill Ayers, now an associate professor of education at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus, organized a team to put together a grant proposal to secure nearly $50 million from the Annenberg Challenge. The money was to be used by Ayers and co. to bolster the radical Local School Councils reform project that Ayers and Obama had championed back in 1988 through the ABCs.
The grant application was successful and in early 1995 Barack Obama was named chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was named co-chair of the Challenges operative and strategic body, the Chicago School Reform Collaborative. Ayers and Obama work together for the next five years on raising an additional $60 million in matching money from local foundations and corporations and using the money to intervene in the governance of the Chicago public schools.
The Challenge through a multi-million dollar Leadership Development Initiative intervened in the School Council elections in the middle of what was known as the Chicago School Wars. At the same time Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was pushing, successfully, to gut the power of the Councils.
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"The Small Schools Workshop was founded in 1991 at the University of Illinois at Chicago to provide support for teachers who were trying to create new smaller learning environments. Its director is Michael Klonsky, a former professor of education at UIC."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Schools_Workshop
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Some background on Bill Ayers' SDS comrade, Michael Klonsky
(Chicago Annenberg Challenge-related)
"One of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrns comrades in the late 60s Students for a Democratic Society was Mike Klonsky. When Dohrn and Ayers moved in one direction toward the violent tactics of the Weather Underground, Klonsky, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, dropped the pro-Russian communist politics of his parents and became a committed Maoist. As leader of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in 1977 [not to be confused with Communist Party USA. CPML no longer exists, CPUSA formed decades earlier and is still around-ETL], he travelled to Beijing and was toasted by the senior Beijing leadership.
When the crazy left of the 70s died in the 80s, Klonsky went to graduate school in education in Florida and then moved to Chicago.
While driving a cab there he [Michael Klonsky] was recruited by his old friend Bill Ayers to head up a new project called the Small Schools Workshop in 1991. Its offices were in the Department of Education building at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus where Ayers taught.
In 1995 the newly formed Chicago Annenberg Challenge headed by Ayers and Obama gave the Workshop a grant of $175,000.
The Annenberg Challenge also had its office space in the same building as Ayers Department and the Workshop, rent free courtesy of the University.
In 2008 Klonsky ran a blog on the official Obama campaign website on education policy and social justice teaching. When discussion of the Klonsky blog emerged in the blogosphere, it was promptly shut down by the campaign and all of the posts made by Klonsky were removed from the site."
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In 1977, the October League was reorganized as the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) [again, not Communist Party USA (CPUSA) -ETL] and former SDS activist Michael Klonsky became party chairman. Also in 1977, Klonsky traveled to China and the CPML was recognized by the Chinese Communist Party as its official sister party in America.
(snip)
In January 1981, Michael Klonsky resigned as party chairman, and the CPML disbanded that same year.
The previous Red Encyclopedia description of the CPML was incorrectly combined with that of the Communist Party USA (Marxist-Leninist).
http://reds.linefeed.org/past.html
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From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield
"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' He said, 'I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...' "
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html
That’s an interesting thing - he seems to have no friends at all of long standing, say 20 years or more. At least none that haven’t been thrown under the bus.
Do you know anyone who’s worth anything, that you can say that about?
They aren't asleep.....They fully know what they are doing.
That's awesome..and my new tag line.
MOLON LABE
Reads like one of Walter Duranty’s Pulitzer winning artricles about Joe Stalin in the 1930s.
Barack Obama has led the unquestioned life. American society has given Obama opportunities he did not earn. We have allowed Obama to serve himself, and never required him to serve anything greater than himself (filing a mandatory selective-service card is not national service), and have produced the OBAman, the American Lefts latest version of übermensch. In return, Obama sponged up the worst of Leftist thought. Now, he expects cowed Americans to continue to give him a free pass, as we have for all of his life, into the White House. Obama does not intend to govern, he intends to rule.
His Urbane Pomposity Barack Obama lectures us about subjects of which he knows nothing. He has admitted he is not a biochemist. Correct answers in biochemistry are based on reproducible results. Equivocating slicksters do not thrive long in the realm requiring reproducible results and they soon find other fields.
Unlike the rest of us, who are judged by the company we keep, Obama is allowed to befriend terrorists like William Ayres and Ayress wife, Clinical Associate Professor of Law Bernardine Dohrn at Northwestern University School of Law, and suffer no injury to his reputation. Obama spends twenty years listening to Rev. Jeremiah Wright preach hate and racism. But, Obama would have us believe, Wright delivered his racist, anti-white, and anti-American jeremiads only on the Sundays Obama was absent or when Obama was napping. Contrast this with Obama Fellow Travelers posting claims that McCain is a traitor. Obamas convicted friend Rezko partially funds the Obamas home purchase and the media never discuss the connection of Rezko to Obama.
Biden stated during the debate, "The past is prologue." While this isn't always true of events; it often is true of human behavior. Look, for example, at recidivism rates. Obama's life is filled with reckless radicals. Obama will bring those reckless radicals with him to the White House, if he is elected in November.
If the Left can force us to tolerate race-based opportunities and promotions, we can object. Obama uses his race as an excuse and a shield. We dont care about his race; we dont like Obamas policies. The Left should stop using Obamas race as a cover for those policies they favor, policies that have been disastrous everywhere they have been implemented.
An interesting ploy by McCain in the upcoming debate would be to say: “Sen. Obama, I will forfeit two minutes of MY time so that you can discuss your full relationship with Bill Ayers, the ‘60s radical bomber who you have worked with on the Annenburg Challenge and who hosted the launching party for your political career, but who you claim is little more to you than a ‘guy in the neighborhood.’ I will give up my time so you can clarify that situation for us. The American people deserve to know.”
Only two words for the NYTs: Jason Blair.
McCain has just announced that he's going to take the gloves off and wage a much tougher campaign from here on out.
Because of his "Mr Nice Guy" campaign up till now, he will now look desperate if he tries to finally label Obama as an extremist. Obama will no doubt capitalize on this fact.
McCain's Achilles heel will turn out to be his bipartisan streak and his lack of fundamental conservative principles.
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