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Global meltdown, economic woes, and evolution
CMI ^ | October 3, 2008 | Carl Wieland

Posted on 10/03/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

With current talk of possible ‘meltdown’ in the world economy, trillion-dollar bailouts and the like, I was reminded of a newsletter article I wrote some 18 years ago.1 This was at a time when a major Australian newspaper had issued a dramatic call for ‘the churches to “preach” ethics and morals to the embattled Australian business community”. Why? Because they clearly saw the link between declining morality and the then-deteriorating economic health of our country

Australia had been sinking into banana-republic-type foreign debt, then undergoing ‘the recession we had to have’.2 High-flying entrepreneurs who were public heroes in the 80s had been increasingly revealed as at best, irresponsible paper shufflers creating artificial debt bubbles, and at worst, corporate criminals whose schemes were done through loop-holes on the very edge of the law. They had severely damaged this country to the tune of many billions of dollars, for which all Australians were going to have to pay...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bailout; creation; evolution; fanniemay
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1 posted on 10/03/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

ping!


2 posted on 10/03/2008 12:06:01 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Evolution -- Survival Of The Fittest -- Capitalism

Creationism -- Centralized Design -- Socialism

3 posted on 10/03/2008 12:07:47 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Oh, for cryin’ out loud. There were financial panics and meltdowns long before evolution became mainstream science.


4 posted on 10/03/2008 12:11:52 PM PDT by dirtboy
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:::Rolls eyes::: Sounds like something a leftist would say.


5 posted on 10/03/2008 12:12:50 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: steve-b

“If anything, so-called Darwinian analogies applied to business could be better described as Lamarckian analogies, because they involve the transmission of characteristics acquired through an organism’s conscious efforts to adapt to its environment. While it is true that social cooperation may not be guided by a single designer, that is not because the process is driven by random variations but because it results from the intelligent choices of innumerable designers interacting with each other.”

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=1163


6 posted on 10/03/2008 12:17:27 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: steve-b

Funny that -

historically it’s been evo-atheist ideologies that have undergirded collectivist governments.

The Judeo-Christian worldview inherently respects the value of the individual and the respect for private property - ie, capitalism.


7 posted on 10/03/2008 12:20:17 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: dirtboy

The author never suggested otherwise. He is merely drawing a connection between evolution, the breakdown of morality, and economic deterioration.


8 posted on 10/03/2008 12:21:27 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
He is merely drawing a connection between evolution, the breakdown of morality, and economic deterioration.

And that is absurd. Y'all need to stop making evolution a bug-a-bear for every social ill. If you want to disagree with the scientific concepts associated with evolution, fine. I don't agree with every premise of the theory myself. But history has gone through cycles of morality and immorality long before Darwin hit the beach in the Galapagos. Look for the roots of such in the human heart and the dangers of the mob instead of in a scientific book.

9 posted on 10/03/2008 12:24:31 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: MrB
The Judeo-Christian worldview inherently respects the value of the individual and the respect for private property - ie, capitalism.

Funny, I see plenty of flaming pinkos in various churches, who base their redistributionist viewpoints in the Gospels.

10 posted on 10/03/2008 12:25:41 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Yeah, I'm a little concerned about the angry mob when the rest of'um find out how much swindlins'been going on.

Smells like,.... the French Revolution?

11 posted on 10/03/2008 12:27:19 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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Talk about making evolution a bug-a-bear for every social ill. GGG thinks that the 9-11 terrorists were secularists inspired by “the Temple of Darwin” despite them meeting in a Mosque and taking orders and pay from an imam who issues religious edicts saying it is a Muslims duty to kill Americans and Jews.
12 posted on 10/03/2008 12:30:24 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I'm sure that if you apply the same creationist reasoning to economics that you apply to science, you can prove this economic panic was the result of evolution: Panic of 1819
13 posted on 10/03/2008 12:34:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

There may be a verse here or there, that, when taken out of context, or extravagently extrapolated (like evolution), could be taken to justify collectivism,

but the basis of the Christian worldview is in the respect for and protection of private property, to be used (stewarded) for the Glory of God, at the choice of the person entrusted with it.


14 posted on 10/03/2008 12:37:19 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: steve-b
Evolution -- Survival Of The Fittest -- Capitalism Creationism -- Centralized Design -- Socialism

Hyperbole -- Ridiculous Conclusions -- steve-b

15 posted on 10/03/2008 12:38:46 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: dirtboy
Oh, for cryin’ out loud. There were financial panics and meltdowns long before evolution became mainstream science.

Aman! To paraphrase Mark Twain: "Only Adam ever saw any thing happen for the first time."

16 posted on 10/03/2008 12:40:52 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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but the basis of the Christian worldview is in the respect for and protection of private property, to be used (stewarded) for the Glory of God, at the choice of the person entrusted with it.

So then tell me how serfdom and landless peasantry, at the pleasure of the nobles that ruled them, was the state of most Christians for centuries?

17 posted on 10/03/2008 12:41:29 PM PDT by dirtboy
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I’m not sure how that relates to a violation of private property and I’m not going to indulge your need to snipe at religion.

Sorry that you hate God & Christianity so much.

Take it elsewhere.


18 posted on 10/03/2008 12:44:26 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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Sorry that you hate God & Christianity so much.

So because I take issue with a broad, sweeping generalization of yours, I must hate Christianity. Gotcha.

19 posted on 10/03/2008 12:46:20 PM PDT by dirtboy
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I’m not sure how that relates to a violation of private property

Gee, I can't wonder why, other than the fact that the vast majority of people under feudal systems were forbidden the basic rights of property that we have. And the medieval church often buttressed the claims of the nobles to their rights of absolute control over peasants.

You see, I see that as a failing of man, not Christianity. However, one cannot sweepingly say that Christian principalities inherently support property rights and enterprise, because history shows otherwise.

20 posted on 10/03/2008 12:49:21 PM PDT by dirtboy
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