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Vatican official attacks U.S. Democrats as “party of death”
reuters ^

Posted on 10/02/2008 8:04:11 AM PDT by flyfree

Vatican officials seldom single out political leaders who differ with the Church on issues like abortion rights or embryonic stem cell research. But now that the Vatican’s highest court is led by an American, the former St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, we can expect things to get more explicit in Vatican City — at least when when it comes to U.S. politics.

Burke, who was named prefect of the Vatican’s Supreme Court of the Apostolic Signature in June, told the Italian Catholic newspaper Avvenire that the U.S. Democratic Party risked “transforming itself definitively into a party of death for its decisions on bioethical issues.” He then attacked two of the party’s most high profile Catholics — vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — for misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion.

He said Biden and Pelosi, “while presenting themselves as good Catholics, have presented Church doctrine on abortion in a false and tendentious way.”

...Burke said pro-life Democrats were “rare” and that it saddened him that the party that helped “our immigrant parents and grandparents” prosper in America had changed so much over the years.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; antipope; biden; catholic; democrats; elections; homosexualagenda; infanticide; medicareforall; nobama08; obamacare; pelosi; popefrancis; romancatholicism; vatican
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1 posted on 10/02/2008 8:04:11 AM PDT by flyfree
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To: flyfree

They’ve got THAT right!


2 posted on 10/02/2008 8:07:36 AM PDT by Paperdoll (Duncan L.Hunter for Secretary of Defense!)
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To: flyfree

All rhetoric... when the Vatican excommunicates the US Democrats who facilitate abortion and infanticide... then they can get back to me about the credibility of the Catholic Church.


3 posted on 10/02/2008 8:08:14 AM PDT by xtinct (Suicide Hotline... !! "Obama here" --> Please Hold...)
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To: Paperdoll

Death, right. Death to our Republic.

Good Morning, PD!


4 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:37 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: xtinct

This Archbishop represents the dawning of new light in the Vatican. There has been a massive change in the attitudes of American bishops since he took this new job. High hopes for this very great one, who is the first ever to address this issue head on.


5 posted on 10/02/2008 8:11:00 AM PDT by wiley
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To: flyfree

We need a round of very public excommunications at this point. Nothing else will do.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 8:11:20 AM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're working for Obama.)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; svcw; Enosh; ...

Ping for Life


7 posted on 10/02/2008 8:17:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. ( DBM)
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To: flyfree
Amen... say it loud.

The worshipers of the dark must be exposed and called the soldiers of death.

8 posted on 10/02/2008 8:18:55 AM PDT by Porterville (Im no economist- getting a PHD in economics wasn't economical... it didn' make cents.)
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To: flyfree
Burke, ..., told the Italian Catholic newspaper Avvenire that the U.S. Democratic Party risked “transforming itself definitively into a party of death for its decisions on bioethical issues.” He then attacked ... Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — for misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion.

This Lutheran has only one thing to say, "Go Vatican!!!!!!!!"

9 posted on 10/02/2008 8:20:13 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: xtinct

The Catholic Church, despite the way that non-Catholics see it, is not a monolithic and highly controlled organization. Bishops have a considerable amount of latitude, not about doctrine, but about their way of handling the people in their dioceses. In the US, there are some bishops who have announced that they will not give Communion to pro-abortion politicians, others who tactfully ignore the whole thing (Mahony), and others who are stalling (Pelosi’s bishop in SF, who has announced that he will speak to her on this matter, but clearly does not intend to do so before the election).

Will some specific statement come out of the Vatican? I really don’t know, because I’m not sure that, without simply forbidding Catholics to be Democrats, this could be addressed from abroad in any effective way. In addition, the authority of the Vatican has been so weakened since Vatican II, I’m not sure it would matter anyway.

I think we’re going to have an Anglican-style schism here in the US. That is, an issue is going to arise that draws the line in the sand and means that people have to choose between a political leader and their religion. This issue may be abortion or it may be euthanasia or it may be freedom of education.

Not only that, but after Obama is elected, he will be a political leader with the power to persecute. Most people, here as in England, will opt for the political leader. I think there will be an “American Catholic Church” within a few years, and Catholics loyal to Rome will be subject to severe legal discrimination.


10 posted on 10/02/2008 8:21:46 AM PDT by livius
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To: Loud Mime

Unless we condemn abortion, and discard our plunging morality, our Republic will lose the Divine Protection we’ve enjoyed for several hundred years.

Good morning, LOud Mime.


11 posted on 10/02/2008 8:24:13 AM PDT by Paperdoll (Duncan L.Hunter for Secretary of Defense!)
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To: flyfree

Proverbs 25As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation

12 posted on 10/02/2008 8:24:34 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: xtinct

I am not Catholic but isn’t support of abortion(and most other things the dems support) self-excommunicating?


13 posted on 10/02/2008 8:28:15 AM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: flyfree

The only problem is... will any Catholics listen?


14 posted on 10/02/2008 8:28:38 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: flyfree
For Obama to be ahead in PA, OH, WI, MN, a LOT of Catholics have to be supporting Obama.

Cherry picking Catholics that say they are against the death penalty and war apparently equate that with abortion. We live in a “support lifestyle” America instead of a “support life” America.

Even more than this Presidential election, Catholics need to come to grips with the theology of the church — not their cherry picking relativism.

15 posted on 10/02/2008 8:34:17 AM PDT by detch
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To: greyfoxx39

He then attacked two of the party’s most high profile Catholics — vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — for misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion.

He said Biden and Pelosi, “while presenting themselves as good Catholics, have presented Church doctrine on abortion in a false and tendentious way.”
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This is why Pelosi was so snarly at the convention ????

Good for him...

The Supreme Court of the Vatican has “overturned” Roe V Wade...


16 posted on 10/02/2008 8:37:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: flyfree

Between abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide, infanticide, and *mercy killings*, that about sums it up.

I still, for the life of me, cannot figure out why so many Catholics vote democratic when the democrats violate every principle that the Catholic church stands for.


17 posted on 10/02/2008 8:39:01 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Antoninus

We need a round of very public excommunications at this point. Nothing else will do.
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The Baptist Church in AR that Bill Clinton belonged to, “excommunicated” him for his views...


18 posted on 10/02/2008 8:39:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Salvation; NYer

ping


19 posted on 10/02/2008 8:42:13 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: flyfree

BTTT


20 posted on 10/02/2008 8:46:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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