Posted on 09/29/2008 11:18:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll
Is Barack Obama an Indonesian Citizen?
On Sunday, I received an email from An Expat in Southeast Asia, Larry Martin.
He wrote this:
Obama is Indonesian.
My sources claim that he was adopted and that the Indonesian government is aware of this - so are Obama’s people who cut a deal with the Indonesian government to have the records suppressed.
(Excerpt) Read more at texasdarlin.wordpress.com ...
“Obama was born in the USA and is therefore a native born citizen.”
This has never been conclusively proven. All Obama ever had to do to put this issue to bed, was to release a true birth certificate. He never has.
Do you wonder why his white grandmother has never been seen or interviewed? Aside from Obama’s orders to the press of course. His Kenyan relatives SAY he was born there. His mother’s best high school friend who lives in state of Washngton SAYS Stanley Ann showed up in state of Washington with a newborn baby whose diapers she did not know how to change. His adoption at about age 4 cand change of citizenship by Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetero is factual. Records are “sealed”. All of these questions could be put to bed with release of a true birth certificate.
If you don’t know the history of the fake Hawaiian document “Certificate” posted on his website by a KOS groupee, read texasdarlin’s blog.
What’s interesting about TexasDarlin’s blog right now is that it is a reminder that the Clintons don’t want Barry to win. Given how he’s pulled into the lead therefore, one waits for another boot or two to drop.
Even if it is true, what do you think will happen as a result? Obama getting yanked as the dim candidate? At this point in the game? FAT CHANCE!
You could dig up videotape of Obama setting a bunch of nuns on fire and it wouldn’t change one damn thing.
Let’s just concentrate on beating the bastard at the ballot box in November.
Bill is making some eye raising and interesting comments about how he and the republicans tried to rein in Fanny Mae fraud.
Hillary the great democrat popular vote winner is conspicuously MIA on steering her party through the current financial crisis and bailout plan. Even though she is a New York senator and Wall street is
“her” constituency.
.....The only issue of contention Faleomavaega would face from the Indonesian government would be the issue of West Papau. In the end, it was simply a give and take situation. The Obama campaign needed assistance from the Indonesian government and the Indonesian government wanted a free hand in Papau...
Sadly, the world does not know very much about what is going on in West Papua:
MASS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & GENOCIDE:
The Independent State of Papua New Guinea is experiencing cross-border incursions by some Indonesians. However, West Papua -- the western half of the island -- is experiencing wide-spread genocide.
According to Survival-International: "All the Papuan peoples have suffered greatly under the Indonesian occupation which has been in force since 1963. The Indonesian army has a long history of human rights violations against the Papuans, and the racist Indonesian soldiers generally view the Papuan people as little more than animals. Papua's natural resources are being exploited at great profit for the Indonesian government and foreign businesses, but at the expense of the Papuan peoples and their homelands. When international companies come to Papua the Indonesian military accompanies them to 'protect' the 'vital projects': with the military there always come human rights violations such as killings, arbitrary arrests, rape and torture. Those Papuans who protest against the Indonesian government, the military or 'vital projects' are even more likely to experience abuses of their human rights." 3,4,5,6 An estimated 100,000 of them were killed by the Indonesian armed forces between 1963 and 2002. 5 The mass murder continues to the present time.
On 2003-DEC-10, The Orville H. Schell, Jr. Center for International Human Rights and the Allard K. Lowenstein International Human Rights Clinic and Project at Yale Law School issued a report denouncing human rights abuses in Papua. 7 They concluded that the historical and contemporary evidence "strongly suggests that the Indonesian government has committed proscribed acts with the intent to destroy the West Papuans...
Have you read the blog post linked above? The blog owner isn't making that argument -- in fact, she's said repeatedly that she believes he was born in the U.S.
If you read the material, including American Expat's post (linked at the link), you'll find that the questions are a) whether he was a citizen of Indonesia through adoption; b) whether he gave up or renounced that citizenship when he achieved the legal age of 18; and c) whether he ever traveled, as an adult, on an Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen; and d) if the answer to any of the above is affirmative, has he deliberately attempted to conceal the fact(s)?
Thanks for the ‘mornin’ ping. Sounds plausible to me that the slime machine surrounding Obama would do anything and everything to hide Obama’s past from the American people.
In order to obtain a US passport, Obama had to substantiate that he was a US citizen. How did he do it?
“...To hold this opinion one must work to avoid noticing the insanity of thinking that anybody in 1960s Hawaii would have considered a half-black kid a likely candidate for that particular office...
Link to original article:
Useful resource:
That’s right, Chuck Schumer is putting in overtime and Hillary is out of sight and mum on the subject.
Show me his US passport...
"The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth."
"A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship."
Are you suggesting that he doesn’t have a US passport? How do you think he has been travelling outside the US on his Senate trips?
Do you remember earlier this year when there was a scandal about someone obtaining candidate’s passport records from insiders in the State department? Hmmm. Someone knows.
My personal tin hat theory- Hillary knows Obama is not an eligible natural born citizne- and he has Chelsea’s DNA.
checkmate.
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Maybe the dumbest post ever.
I’m aware the law on dual nationality. I made no mention of loss of citizenship — the question at the root here is one of possible deception, and therefore the credibility, of a candidate for President of the United States.
If Obama was born in the US, he is a natural born citizen. If not, then he would have to be naturalized. I see no evidence of the latter.
Deception how?
Oh, they found a fall guy!
And what pray tell did he do with the passport information he obtained? Give it back?
no sarc
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