Posted on 09/19/2008 1:28:47 PM PDT by kristinn
We hear on the internet underground that hackers and/or script-kiddies have declared an internet war against Fox News and columnist Bill O'Reilly and plan a cyber-assault for later today. Reportedly, parts of O'Reilly's site have already been compromised. This is serious business, no doubt.
To get to the bottom of the issue, we spoke to an insider, a frequent poster on a certain well known online support group for young-adult agoraphobics where these things are planned and executed. He prefers to remain anonymous.
(We starred-out the names of internet sites because, apparently, they don't like to be noticed.)
G4: What are the plans for the attack on Bill O’Reilly/ Fox News?
Anonymous Guy: As far as I know, all that was planned was DDoS attacks against Bill's site and/or Fox News's site at around 5 PM today Eastern Standard Time. This information was posted publicly on many threads over the past few days, so it's not like this was a widely kept secret. As of right now it looks like some people may have started doing DDoS attacks already though, so either that time got bumped, or people are just posting others' IPs on 4*** in hopes /*/ will attack other people.
Other than the fact that O’Reilly is an insufferable blowhard, why is he a target?
Simple. When the email got hacked and then passed along to 4***, it then made its way to Gawker who posted the screenshots passed around on /*/ The secret service and/or FBI then asked Gawker to take down the pics, and they refused. Later on, Bill O Reilly talked about it, and this is what he said:
In this segment he calls a site he won't name "despicable, slimy, scummy" and even though it's obvious he's referring to Gawker, ***s tards assumed he was talking about them. The mods of 4**changing the title of that section of the site to "Despicable, slimy, scummy" didn't help. So they decided to get some laughs by getting some revenge on him. But mainly just because he's annoying. Here's the video they've passed around a lot lately of him:
He's acting like he's the one who is bringing the hacker to justice even though he has nothing to do with it. And this video is just like everyone of his other videos -- he invites a guest or expert on the show, and then talks over them the whole time and disagrees with them until the time is up. Insufferable blowhard indeed.
Anything to do with his politics, do you think?
People have suggested that this hacking incident was all staged by Republicans, so that they can further portray Palin as a huge victim, and further bash Democrats. That seems like a ridiculous suggestion to me, but when you then consider Palin's public email was already in question by the law, with laws prohibiting her from using it for business or deleting any emails either, then it does hold some merit -- after this incident her entire email was deleted, thus destroying whatever incriminating evidence might have existed in it. I doubt it's true at all, but it's definitely a clever trick I can see crooked politicians using in the future. Say 4*** hacked something of yours, and then destroy all of the evidence.
This, and the Palin hack, are much higher profile than hacking some goth kid’s livejournal. Is there any sense of fear that The Man is going to show up and haul people off to pound-me-in-the-ass jail?
Absolutely -- there was an article the other day on TheRegister where the owner of the proxy site Ctunnel came out publicly saying that he could find the person who hacked the account. Whoever did so forgot to black out their URL in the screenshot (which seems fishy to me...), so the code used in the URL should be easy to pinpoint in his site's archives. Basically, the hacker's screwed if the FBI take the proxy admin up on his offer, which I'm sure they will.
Do these hackers care about the fact that these kind of exploits could eventually destroy their own playground? IE: Once the feds get involved, they’ll pretty much shut things down if they want to.
Watch the second youtube clip linked above. No -- the law states that 4*** shouldn't be held accountable for this incident at all. But I doubt that's what is stopping /*/. It's common knowledge that you can't fight the Internet. Go ahead and shut down 4***, its users won't care, they'll find another online community to move on to. Go ahead and shut down ThePirateBay, there will be 100s of new torrent sites within a week. I feel bad for moot though, his life has to be hectic.
I know these computer guys doesn’t like people naming the site they came from, but am I going to piss off an internet if I refer to it as an “online support group for young-adult agoraphobics?”
Well I'm hardly an "oldfag", but I think I know enough to know that statement isn't true -- at least it didn't used to be true. 4*** got its fame from not taking s*** from anyone, and by being able to talk about anything. The result used to be a lot of images and discussions that most people couldn't stomach. In recent years though, after the rise of the Scientology protests that became linked to 4***, the site saw a lot of newcomers that changed what 4*** was all about. People arrived at 4*** like misinformed immigrants expecting one thing, and got another. Rather than leaving though, they stuck around since /*/ was so loose and carefree, and in the process became what /*/tards like to call "the cancer that is killing /*/" But are most of the "newfags" young-adult agoraphobics? Yup.
How can an average citizen protect him or herself from the internets hackers that want to hack their emailz? Should I buy a dog?
Don't be an idiot like Sarah Palin was. She was a huge political figure, and yet she used a public email account despite being told not to. By not using a government email she allowed herself to be hacked by someone answering three simple questions: What is her birthday? What is her zip code? Where did she meet her husband? That's insanely easy to figure out in an hour online, and I'm surprised it took /b/ so long to hack her. I'm still surprised people haven't hacked into her daughters' Myspace account yet.
As for the normal person, just make sure all of your different accounts on computers and sites have different passwords. Don't let yourself get hacked in one place and watch as you become the Titanic as each one of your account walls crumble.
This is going to end badly, don’t you think?
I don't know, I'm surprised that Palin's email being hacked didn't get more TV time -- aside from Bob O RLY I haven't even seen it in the news yet. And that's crazy. Aside from what side of the political fence you are on, her getting hacked in such a manner shows how immensely unprepared she is to be in the white house. I truly hope it gets more news time.
As for this news about Bob's site being hacked -- it had better get a lot of TV time. It's not fair to his site's users and clients to not know they've been hacked. It's not good enough to simply tell them their account info has been compromised either. Today I saw screenshots of 100s of peoples' personal info in the hands of people who would love to hack into their accounts on other sites using the same login passwords. Shame on Bill O Reilly and Fox News for having such a weak site security system, they are just as much to blame as the hackers on this one. Their customers should be furious.
Yes, the left mustn’t even allow ONE conservative point of view.
This is the biggest cultural clash in my lifetime, the left and it’s minions against freedom and survival.
It’s very depressing. The left is sneaking into every aspect of American life. They’re total intolerant fascists. They want to completely kill freedom and the country.
Office Space!
/b/tard ;-P
Just like the Arab countries that said 911 was staged by the Israelis. Do we see a pattern here?
I’ll plan on pretending to be an MSNBC “reporter”, to get in to visit them when they are in prison, “to tell their side of the story”, and then laugh in their zoo animal faces. >Bo)
Did anyone have any problems getting on FR this week? I had trouble three different nights at the same time frame (around 8p-8:45p CST hour)each night. No lie - it never would pull up. Later these same nights I could get on....finally. Could FR be targeted or could it just be me, the user? :)I have experienced high traffic and slow sign ons but this has been different. I had my husband try on his computer and he couldn’t either......
Not only that, but there are methods known as ‘smurf attacks’ that can be instigated by one person in one place, and use spoofed IP’s to generate DDoS attacks from servers all over the place:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_attack
So, it could technically be one, or a few hackers doing this if they’ve found some ISP’s who still haven’t closed these holes.
There are ways to close those holes and most ISP’s in the US have. But that doesn’t stop an attacker from using servers in China, Korea, etc, where these holes are usually still wide open.
‘Smurfing’ is a pretty old method, I’ve been privy to them for about 10 years since I worked at a Mom & Pop ISP back in the boom days. All it would take was for one of our customers (usually a kid) to P/O somebody else (usually another kid) on IRC or another chat room somewhere, and the next thing you know, we’re getting ‘smurf’ed’. It would take us hours to recover and it became a big problem until we got our upstream provider to start putting measures in place to mitigate the attacks.
Go ahead and crack into his yahoo account...his password is Luffa
AP Refuses Secret Service Request for Palin’s “Hacked” Emails
editor and Publisher | Published: September 18, 2008 12:15 AM ET
Posted on 09/18/2008 5:36:00 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2084960/posts
Hacker impersonated Palin, stole e-mail password
AP via Breitbart | September 18, 2008 | Ted Bridis
Posted on 09/18/2008 1:30:33 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2085304/posts
Memphis Lawmaker’s (DEMOCRAT )Son Investigated for Palin Hacking
wrecradio.com | Thursday, September 18, 2008 | wrecradio.
Posted on 09/18/2008 4:12:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2085396/posts
State rep says son focus of Palin e-mail hacking rumors
Knoxnews.com | September 18, 2008 | Staff
Posted on 09/19/2008 5:46:27 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2085756/posts
Identity of Sarah Palin Hacker Revealed By His Own Dad (Dems for Obama)
exflux.media | sept 19,2001 | Eric Blair
Posted on 09/19/2008 8:27:41 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2085890/posts
From May 15, 2003: To Register Doubts, Press Here
(Who is Mike Kernell, Hacker’s Dad?)
New York Times | Published: May 15, 2003 | By Sam Lubell
Posted on 09/19/2008 1:27:07 PM PDT by jessduntno
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2086098/posts
It is too bad one cannot have certain web pages on one server using a separate software as well as a separate system network interface that also allows users to cross over to the other site once passing a set of certain tasks. That would help a lot at in essence keeping these DDoS or Dos attack away from the bulk of the site and won't tax the rest of the system that serves up pages etc. It would be sort of like a 'front porch' for the site. If they can't get through the door they can only destroy the front porch, but nothing inside.
I assume going forward we will be seeing a lot more of these sort of attacks. I am surprised there is not more offered to accommodate this new reality. I guess they figure if a page can tie into the larger site then so can a hacker so why work so hard and spend so much money on maintaining basically two systems, but at least it will make the attackers work harder to pull off an effective attack.
Just saw your post a few minutes ago and turned O’Reilly on. He’s on loud and clear!
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Yup
Geraldo on with O’ now
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It’s not the FBI and SS these creeps need to fear
It’s Bill Gates and others who are working together to prosecute them and sue them too
Don’t go against BIG MONEY and expect to survive
I hope they are prosecuted but with all the liberal judges we have you never know how severe it will be. Good to know Gates is going after them.
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Like drug dealers use young kids as runners
It may be that Daddy used his “emotionally unstable” 20 year old son to do the deed
Kinda like Al Qaeda using women and kids as bombers
[It may be that Daddy used his “emotionally unstable” 20 year old son to do the deed]
I imagine we have all thought of that and what kind of father would expose his son to the consequences of hacking..whoops, probably an irate liberal democrat. They get away with most things they do.
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Dems get away with it
Illegally intercepting and recording cellphones of Republicans
But for the NSA to monitor an Islamic terrorist calling in from a cave........
No privacy!
It is too bad one cannot have certain web pages on one server using a separate software as well as a separate system network interface that also allows users to cross over to the other site once passing a set of certain tasks.
That's done all the time. Think bank, insurance company, or many places where you buy stuff online.
You authenticate yourself in some manner- user id/password and a secure connection is made to a different webserver.
This also helps to shield the confidential information from that which is publicly available.
But if they hammer the "front door" then nobody can get in.
That would help a lot at in essence keeping these DDoS or Dos attack away from the bulk of the site and won't tax the rest of the system that serves up pages etc. It would be sort of like a 'front porch' for the site. If they can't get through the door they can only destroy the front porch, but nothing inside.
I assume going forward we will be seeing a lot more of these sort of attacks. I am surprised there is not more offered to accommodate this new reality. I guess they figure if a page can tie into the larger site then so can a hacker so why work so hard and spend so much money on maintaining basically two systems, but at least it will make the attackers work harder to pull off an effective attack.
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