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Baroness Warnock: Dementia sufferers may have a 'duty to die'
telegraph.co.uk ^ | September 19, 2008 | Martin Beckford

Posted on 09/18/2008 8:30:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The veteran Government adviser said pensioners in mental decline are "wasting people's lives" because of the care they require and should be allowed to opt for euthanasia even if they are not in pain.

She insisted there was "nothing wrong" with people being helped to die for the sake of their loved ones or society.

The 84-year-old added that she hoped people will soon be "licensed to put others down" if they are unable to look after themselves.

Her comments in a magazine interview have been condemned as "immoral" and "barbaric", but also sparked fears that they may find wider support because of her influence on ethical matters.

Lady Warnock, a former headmistress who went on to become Britain's leading moral philosopher, chaired a landmark Government committee in the 1980s that established the law on fertility treatment and embryo research.

A prominent supporter of euthanasia, she has previously suggested that pensioners who do not want to become a burden on their carers should be helped to die.

Last year the Mental Capacity Act came into effect that gives legal force to "living wills", so patients can appoint an "attorney" to tell doctors when their hospital food and water should be removed.

But in her latest interview, given to the Church of Scotland's magazine Life and Work, Lady Warnock goes further by claiming that dementia sufferers should consider ending their lives through euthanasia because of the strain they put on their families and public services.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: comingtoamerica; cultureofdeath; elderly; euthanasia; healthcare; utilitarianism
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To: wac3rd
euthanasia will be a fact of life in an overcrowded world with limited natural resources.

I cringe when I hear people talk about an "overcrowded world". That is the perception of people who choose to live in crowded cities. I live in Idaho. Massive open space. Not crowded at all. I you really believe the world is overcrowded, you need to get out more.

41 posted on 09/18/2008 10:32:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: AmericaUnited

OK.

Let’s visit real numbers....30 million illegals with effectively no education or net worth inporting 2-4 relatives with similar resumes.

Do you see a potential fiscal problem, Mr. Bush or Schwartzenegger?

No, making the US the world’s largest barrio is great, as long as I can get big ag, big construction, big banking, big insurance’s campaign donations so they can pay 1/2 to 1/3 less in wages for what jobs are left here...and move the unregulated farms and manufacturing facilities from here to Mexico, China or the Phillipines.

Yes, paying someone $2 per day with no retirement, no benefits and no 401K contribution is easier than 50x that for an American worker. If I save $98 per worker, per day, that adds up, plus not dealing with the regulation and oversight...makes sense to me.


42 posted on 09/18/2008 11:00:49 PM PDT by wac3rd (The MSM will accompany the Captain of the SS Marxist Titanic to the bottom of Lake Michigan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The underlying motive was the desire to help individuals who could not help themselves and were thus prolonging their lives in torment. ... To quote Hippocrates today is to proclaim that invalids and persons in great pain should never be given poison. But any modern doctor who makes so rhetorical a declaration without qualification is either a liar or a hypocrite. ... I never intended anything more than or believed I was doing anything but abbreviating the tortured existence of such unhappy creatures…… I am convinced that today they have overcome their distress and personally believe that the dead members of their families were given a happy release from their sufferings.”

Testimony of Dr. Karl Brandt, Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, also Adolf Hitler personal physician. Sentenced to death and executed June 2, 1948 at Landsberg prison in Bavaria.

http://www.pregnantpause.org/euth/nazieuth.htm


43 posted on 09/18/2008 11:28:28 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought the Brits FOUGHT the Nazis.


44 posted on 09/19/2008 1:09:09 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


And think of all the $$$ the governement will "save"......

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45 posted on 09/19/2008 6:15:44 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Lady Warnock, a former headmistress who went on to become Britain’s leading moral philosopher”
Speaks volumes.

It sure does — about Britain’s morality or lack thereof.


46 posted on 09/19/2008 7:29:44 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This lady is extremely well respected as one of the UKs most prominent moral philosophers and yet I cannot agree with either her terminology nor her views regarding this topic. She needs to be pointed in the direction of the Bradford Dementia Group and especially the work of the late and much lamented Tom Kitwood. Here was a man who refused to believe that those with a dementing illness were burdensome. Both he and his colleagues produced some brilliant research work to show that, rather than the person suffering from this horrible illness being a burden, it is us as a society via our malevolent social psychology who will always look for the easy options when it comes to caring for the dementing individual. He must be spinning in his grave to know that a highly respected academic is now proposing “the final solution” as one of the options available to carers. Disgusting and contemptible are words which came to mind when reading this article. Who next?. Older people in general?.


47 posted on 09/19/2008 10:20:55 AM PDT by lesback1 (Not very welll thought through or researched.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It would be the patriotic thing to do, like paying higher taxes. /sarcasm


48 posted on 09/19/2008 12:07:41 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Brother, can you spare a dime?)
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To: wac3rd

‘I hate to say it, but in the coming Orwellian times .... euthanasia will be a fact of life in an overcrowded world with limited natural resources.”

Orwell has nothing to do with it. Its respect for life or not. Its can you be bothered to care for those less able to or not. We have plenty of resources to fly actors around the world but none to keep grandma alive? BS

But if your so anxious then please go first.


49 posted on 09/19/2008 5:41:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: mewzilla

Bump for later.


50 posted on 12/26/2010 8:34:56 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, how's that Lockerbie bomber deal investigation coming along?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Dementia sufferers may have a 'duty to die'


BUMP
...this is gonna leave a mark!


51 posted on 12/27/2010 9:38:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only "health" plan....to hell w/ free enterprise system :^)
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