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Photo Ticket Cameras to Track Drivers Nationwide
theNewspaper.com ^ | 9/16/08

Posted on 09/17/2008 1:25:41 PM PDT by steve-b

Private companies in the US are hoping to use red light cameras and speed cameras as the basis for a nationwide surveillance network similar to one that will be active next year in the UK. Redflex and American Traffic Solutions (ATS), the top two photo enforcement providers in the US, are quietly shopping new motorist tracking options to prospective state and local government clients....

The technology would be integrated with the Australian company's existing red light camera and speed camera systems. It allows officials to keep full video records of passing motorists and their passengers, limited only by available hard drive space and the types of cameras installed. To gain public acceptance, the surveillance program is being initially sold as an aid for police looking to solve Amber Alert cases and locate stolen cars....

ATS likewise is promoting motorist tracking technologies. In a recent proposal to operate 200 speed cameras for the Arizona state police, the company explained that its ticketing cameras could be integrated into a national vehicle tracking database....

In the past, police databases have been used to intimidate innocent motorists. An Edmonton, Canada police sergeant, for example, found himself outraged after he read columnist Kerry Diotte criticize his city's photo radar operation in the Edmonton Sun newspaper. The sergeant looked up Diotte's personal information, and, without the assistance of electronic scanners, ordered his subordinates to "be on the lookout" for Diotte's BMW. Eventually a team of officers followed Diotte to a local bar where they hoped to trap the journalist and accuse him of driving under the influence of alcohol. Diotte took a cab home and the officers' plan was exposed after tapes of radio traffic were leaked to the press. Police later cleared themselves of any serious wrong-doing following an extensive investigation....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; beseeingyou; bigbrother; biggestgangintown; donutwatch; dui; policestate; redlightcameras; revenuetickets; thugwithabadge
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To: Glenn

Coming soon to the USA:

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2b.htm


21 posted on 09/17/2008 1:49:48 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: xDGx

That Beeyotch vould make der fuhrer proud.


22 posted on 09/17/2008 1:49:59 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: steve-b; All

23 posted on 09/17/2008 1:50:10 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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To: tatsinfla
daughter received a certified letter in the mail yesterday from the city of orlando florida...inside 3 pictures showing her car running a red light....cost...125.00

That would be $373 in California.

24 posted on 09/17/2008 1:50:19 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: steve-b

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

They’re gonna spend a FORTUNE in maintenance, especially in the US.


25 posted on 09/17/2008 1:50:59 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: steve-b

Bookmark for later.


26 posted on 09/17/2008 1:54:18 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: tatsinfla

wassn’t there a case recently about being able to prove who was driving the vehicle?


27 posted on 09/17/2008 1:55:17 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: BGHater

what if the camera does not use a flash?

(mythbusters did a WEAK attempt [conclusion predetermined] to discredit all the camera beaters)


28 posted on 09/17/2008 1:56:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: xDGx; All

I wonder what the taxing safteycamera nazis would do if states passed constitutional amendments outlawing the use of the cameras except by voter referendum.

FOLKS THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN TRUMP THIS ABOMINATIONS VIA CONSTITUTION.


29 posted on 09/17/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tatsinfla

Was she driving? The problem with these systems in the past has been that they could not identify who was driving. Has that been fixed?


30 posted on 09/17/2008 2:04:30 PM PDT by dools007
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To: steve-b

I think I heard the other day of spray that you apply to your license plate that makes it impossible for a camera to make out the letters/numbers.


31 posted on 09/17/2008 2:04:30 PM PDT by isom35
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To: right.talker

Do they take a picture of the back license plate? I don’t have a front one, the dog ate it.


32 posted on 09/17/2008 2:07:20 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: right.talker

sorry but mythbusters is HARDLY credible when it comes to protecting the sacred cows of the PC worshipers.


33 posted on 09/17/2008 2:07:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Skooz

skooz wrote,

“I’m just a nudge away from packing my stuff and going to live in a cave somewhere”

I already tried, all the good caves were bought up by rich celebrities.


34 posted on 09/17/2008 2:08:14 PM PDT by Republican Die Hard (Smoke & Mirrors Baby)
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To: BGHater

My biggest concern is while TDY and driving a rental car. Not sure I could take the aerosol on the plane with me.


35 posted on 09/17/2008 2:08:27 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: steve-b

The final step in a totalitarian state could be mounting an automatic machinegun on the cameras to liquidate political undesirables as they drive by, fleeing from being apprehended by the secret police.


36 posted on 09/17/2008 2:08:52 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: right.talker

sorry but mythbusters is HARDLY credible when it comes to protecting the sacred cows of the PC worshipers.


37 posted on 09/17/2008 2:09:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: steve-b

Citizens whether in their homes or in public, should have a reasoned assumption of privacy. It is not the government’s job to keep an eye on you every second you leave your front door. The freedom of association is turned on it’s head when the government can document every second of your life. I stridently object to this bull——!


38 posted on 09/17/2008 2:10:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: dools007

yes it has been fixed.

the red light tickets are treated the same as parking tickets and do not affect your license.

No license issue, no due process issue via the courts.

Also it means the municipalities do not run afoul of the pre-emption clause of the florida uniform traffic code to keep these speed traps from existing.

Time for florida to have a constitutional amendment to ban thee red light cameras OUTRIGHT.


39 posted on 09/17/2008 2:15:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Skooz
I’m just a nudge away from packing my stuff and going to live in a cave somewhere.

Naw, just move over here to Mississippi. We're WAY too poor to be able to afford this crap. Heck, the County Sheriffs aren't even allowed to have radar.

40 posted on 09/17/2008 2:19:14 PM PDT by houeto ("Drill Here! Drill Now!")
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