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Democrats' offshore drilling plan would give states nothing
Virginian-Pilot ^ | Sep 13, 2008 | Dale Eisman

Posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by fightinJAG

Even as House Democratic leaders handed Republicans a symbolic victory this week in their long fight for new offshore oil development, critics charged that the fine print in the plan probably will continue to keep drillers out of the Atlantic.

While lifting a 25-year federal ban on most offshore oil and natural gas drilling, the legislation would block Virginia and other coastal states from sharing in a $2.6 trillion bonanza of tax revenue expected to flow from offshore fields. A Senate bill still in the works would give states part of the money.

Unless states stand to profit from offshore development, they almost surely would exercise their right under the bill to block any drilling within 100 miles of their shores, critics of the House initiative charged.

"With no financial incentive, no state will choose to 'opt in,' " House Republican leader John A. Boehner of Ohio told reporters, "and this bill will result in little or no new American energy production."

Rep. Thelma Drake, a Norfolk Republican who has taken a prominent role among pro-drilling forces, was even more critical.

The new bill "appears to be little more than a political ploy," Drake charged in a prepared statement. Democrats intend to "tell the American people that they voted to go after more American energy while winking to the environmentalists to say that this increased production will never happen," she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at hamptonroads.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 110th; congress; drilling; energy; naturalgas; offshoredrilling; oil
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1 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

more stupid games. these jackasses have got to go.


2 posted on 09/12/2008 10:36:02 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax

2 years they’ve done nothing about drilling now they want to pretend less than 2 month from an election?
Do they think this bs gimmick will work?


3 posted on 09/12/2008 10:38:41 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: fightinJAG

Each Alaskan got over $2,000 this year in oil royalties. Man, woman, child. Even Democrats. Amazing, isn’t it? I think Democrats should be forced to give up their share.

The Democrat Mafia would no way give that up to us peons in the states. They want to keep it for themselves to skim off the top, pay for their pet projects (such as the Garage to Nowhere) and then refill union and Democrat coffers.


4 posted on 09/12/2008 10:43:07 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: fightinJAG
Why are they blocking Virgina from getting tax money from oil off their coast? The feds don't do squat and they want all the taxes?
5 posted on 09/12/2008 11:03:53 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: fightinJAG

The more oil there is the market, the cheaper oil is. Plus you aren’t dealing with the crooked OPEC.


6 posted on 09/12/2008 11:04:49 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: fightinJAG
bumper-sticker
 
 

Contact your Congress critters to let them know that you are tired of high gas prices.

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

Send Nancy’s email to:

http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

And un-elect all the dimocrats who will not support drilling EVERYWHERE!

7 posted on 09/12/2008 11:05:46 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Why?... Because democoRATS see the US as their tax base. There are no states, just the federal coffers. Why else woul dthey play the ‘general fund’ shuffle while continuing to pretend they are wanting to raise social security withholding? It all goes into democrat spending for ‘other’.


8 posted on 09/12/2008 11:07:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: fightinJAG

Do Nothing Nancy’s Drilling Bill is a permanent ban on drilling. What’s New?
The only question is if the Repubs are this stupid?

Pray for W, Mccuda and Our Troops


9 posted on 09/12/2008 11:08:05 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: bray

The Demos sure don’t mind drilling the taxpayer do they?


10 posted on 09/12/2008 11:11:51 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: guitarplayer1953; All

The picture may not be as gloomy as it appears, and if the Dems hope to stop the states they may not succeed if the following quote makes sense:

“Wagner, the state’s most vocal advocate for drilling, said Thursday that offshore oil would be a boon to Virginia even if the state is cut out of the royalties. Building the infrastructure ashore needed to support drilling at sea would create thousands of new jobs for Virginians and add valuable properties to local tax rolls, Wagner said.”

In June 2006, I traveled along the Gulf coast from Tampa all the way to New Orleans. In Mississippi, I stopped at a small but busy shipyard and spoke to the management. They said they were building several new ships to service the oil platforms that had been damaged the previous year. Their business was booming, because all the platforms had to pass a safety inspection for which there were not enough appropriate vessels.


11 posted on 09/12/2008 11:14:39 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: MHGinTN

What do you think the founding fathers would say today about the federal government?


12 posted on 09/12/2008 11:24:17 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

That it is completely out of bounds, ignoring the ten Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Need you ask?


13 posted on 09/12/2008 11:26:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

They are blocking the states from getting the revenues because they know that will keep them from drilling in the first place.

So they can pretend to be for drilling, all the while sabotaging any real prospect of a state drilling.


14 posted on 09/12/2008 11:31:28 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he said: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: fightinJAG
The GOP should not allow a rat bill to pass congress. Just let the drilling moratorium expire on Oct 1, 2008.

If we play our cards right we may take back congress this year.

15 posted on 09/13/2008 12:22:44 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: fightinJAG
This crap that it would affect the budget is BS. Is it considered state land off shore or is it considered US land? which in the case of Virgina it was one of the first 13 colony and would it not be consider their land since it predates the formation of the USA?
16 posted on 09/13/2008 1:32:53 AM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: fightinJAG
The republicans need to fight any new legislation to keep it from coming to a vote or passing and simply let the ban expire. It's the only way they'll prove they are serious about earning the trust of the people again. Then maybe I'll consider donating to the RNC at some point or at least specific conservative house leadership.

At least the House is fighting for something.

17 posted on 09/13/2008 1:55:12 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Mogollon
The GOP should not allow a rat bill to pass congress. Just let the drilling moratorium expire on Oct 1, 2008.

The bill is designed to give the democrats political "cover" for this upcoming race. That is all. It IS NOT and WILL NOT provide one drop of oil.

It will allow the democrats to vote "for" extensive drilling while not allow ANY drilling at all. It will be placed before the house before any expiration of any ban now in effect. It will pass by a wide margin (and show the voting public how much the Dems really care about drilling!) and go to the Senate where no amendments will be allowed by Reid. Should it be held up by some Senator (which is very likely), Reid will simply call for the existing ban now in effect be added as a part of a budget CR which must be passed before 1 Oct.

The rats get to claim how much they wanted to drill for more oil and give the states such large quantities of money "for the children" but the nasty Republicans have stalled the bill. The "drilling bill" will simply die until maybe it is raised again next year and the Dems hope to have a "friendly" POTUS to deal with.

18 posted on 09/13/2008 3:49:52 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Caipirabob

Pull up NumbersUSA on the Internet. It’s the most efficient and to the point way of letting your reps in Washington know your feelings. You will be notified daily of fax, telephone, meetings information and you can personalize your message. Roy Beck does a very fine job flooding the hill switchboards, fax machines and email mill.


19 posted on 09/13/2008 3:50:41 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Mogollon

“The GOP should not allow a rat bill to pass congress. Just let the drilling moratorium expire on Oct 1, 2008.”

YES!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 09/13/2008 4:26:13 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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