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Again, the key to realizing the plagiarism, and to realizing that the entire riff was pre-scripted, is that Obama begins to tell the joke wrong.

Obama started in with Toles's "Exce-", but quickly realized that he didn't start the joke correctly, so he went back and filled in the preamble to the joke, and then he returned later to Toles's "Except" once again.

After that, he deliberately launched into the "Lipstick on a Pig" template, pausing and hesitating and timing the joke for what he hoped would be maximum effectiveness.

1 posted on 09/10/2008 9:26:46 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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Great work!


2 posted on 09/10/2008 9:29:37 AM PDT by icwhatudo (If my brother-n-law threatened to kill my father-I'd tell his boss too (Just like Palin did))
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Great work putting the info together! ;)


3 posted on 09/10/2008 9:34:14 AM PDT by BossLady (READ MY LIPSTICK: NO TO OBAMA!!!!!!!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Talking Points.


5 posted on 09/10/2008 9:36:46 AM PDT by CWW (Sanford & Jindal -- Hope for 2012!!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Great work. More proof that the 0bama campaign is intellectually bankrupt, as are its supporters. Nothing but empty, vapid, platitudinous bilge.


6 posted on 09/10/2008 9:37:59 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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” Obama started in with Toles’s “Exce-”, but quickly realized that he didn’t start the joke correctly, so he went back and filled in the preamble to the joke, and then he returned later to Toles’s “Except” once again. “

I wonder if Obama was supposed to say the same as Biden-you can put lipstick on a record..but, forgot what he was supposed to say.
The video shows Obama rubbing his forehead , like a Genie rubbing a lamp, praying for a thought and instead of abandoning the whole concept-just goes with what comes naturally-a sleazy personal insult.


7 posted on 09/10/2008 9:38:03 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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When I thought it was off the cuff, I was ready to give him a pass.

"Lipstick on a pig" is after all a reasonably common phrase, that one might use, like "boy am I tired". Neither is particularly racist, sexist, or demeaning as a figure of speech.

Planning to say it in advance? No. Calling someone, or deliberately implying someone is a pig is offensive, especially if a muslim does it!

Yes. I deliberately used Islam's own standard, the son of a muslim man is a muslim.

9 posted on 09/10/2008 9:42:08 AM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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Lipstick Pig Cartoon

10 posted on 09/10/2008 9:42:08 AM PDT by AwesomePossum (A man always has two reasons for doing something, a good reason and the real reason.)
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We know that Obama began plagiarizing Tom Toles as early as Monday, September 8, as he admitted to Keith Olbermann...

Could the admission to Keith Olbermann about Toles be considered attribution of Toles' line, and thus no longer plagiarism for subsequent usages? Or would he have to say, "As Tom Toles has so eloquently phrased it..." every time? I figure that if it was Mccain this was regarding, we would be saying he had already done the attribution.

11 posted on 09/10/2008 9:44:48 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Wonderful catch and excellent work!

Drudge has the headline on now “As media turns on Obama. . .” or something like that. When you click, it is apparent from the linked blog that NO MEDIA ORGAN that was pro-Obama has “turned” against him in any way. And the Anoin—er, chosen one has issued a decree on the 10th day of September in the year of 2008, that no one is to challenge the words of the Anoin—er, chosen one, and no woman is to take insult from him lampooning the word “lipstick” by putting it on a “pig”. Hear ye, hear ye.

Moveth along, folks, there is no man behind the curtain.


12 posted on 09/10/2008 9:45:40 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (McCain-Palin: because America has a right to be proud of itself and its leaders.)
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Found this phrase on a Hillary site:

Read my lipstick — NO TO OBAMA!


15 posted on 09/10/2008 9:50:12 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (My new favorite quote "You can't organize clutter.")
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Excellent post.

Bottom line. Obama made the “lipstick/pig” remark in order to pick a fight with the McCain-Palin campaign. When you’re dropping in the polls its time to go on the offensive, but first you have to get everyones attention. Obama wasn’t expecting this to backfire like it has. He figured a smart ass remark to motivate his supporters and insult Sarah Palin in the process would guarantee a response from the McCain campaign.

You got your wish, Barry.


16 posted on 09/10/2008 9:50:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Vote --- With Palin on the ticket, MOST conservatives should be satisfied.)
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Rush needs to see this thread......


17 posted on 09/10/2008 9:51:54 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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US Rep Shelley Berkeley (D-NV-1) said at a democrat womens luncheon this last weekend and used this same line - exactly.

No are no coincidences that could explain dozens of people around the country using the exact same words. Unless Obama thinks we are all stupider than his own supporters.


18 posted on 09/10/2008 9:53:02 AM PDT by bpjam (If an enemy chooses you as his executioner, don't be rude by refusing.)
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Excellent work.


20 posted on 09/10/2008 9:56:03 AM PDT by agere_contra (This election is the showdown between the producers and the non-producers in our society.)
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and let’s examine the next line from Obamas mouth which involved ‘smelly fish’. If this was a Republican saying this, NOW would be ought there claiming that this was another shot at older women.

But McCain ought to just go out and claim that Obama is calling Palin a pig and McCain an old stinky fish. Pretty much puts the end to that ‘new kind of politics’ Obama was preaching this time last year. Sounds more like old-style Chicago machine politics to me.


21 posted on 09/10/2008 9:56:32 AM PDT by bpjam (If an enemy chooses you as his executioner, don't be rude by refusing.)
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Kay,

If you Google Web “obama plagiarism tom toles”, there are a bunch of columns and blogs written about your first FR thread of early this morning, and other notable blogs/columns about this issue.

Check it out — http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+plagiarism+tom+toles&aq=f&oq=


22 posted on 09/10/2008 9:58:42 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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Great job!!!! But don’t forget this.

THE WEEK
Monday, September 8, 2008

ROBERT SHRUM: “The Republicans’ Lipstick Populism”

...”Palin assailed Obama for not mentioning the word “victory” in his acceptance speech. But she didn’t bother to mention “health care”—and McCain hasn’t troubled himself to offer a free-market approach to the issue. Will Americans take seriously a pledge to stand for “the people, not the powerful” that doesn’t even acknowledge this central concern? Can the pit bull pay lip service—or merely apply lipstick?”...

Now tell me that ‘lipstick’ was NOT the DNC talking point of the day????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am pissed!!!

Off to go put on my lipstick and head on down to my local Repub. HQ and get my McCain/Palin yard sign!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 09/10/2008 10:01:43 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

GREAT work. Newsbusters (as you probably know) picked this up- from you.


27 posted on 09/10/2008 10:03:27 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama: Terror Groups have "legitimate claims.")
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Keep up the good work.


28 posted on 09/10/2008 10:04:54 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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Obama said the McCain campaign moved to "seize an innocent remark and take it out of context because they knew it's catnip for the news media."

Obamas deliberate use of Lipstick

29 posted on 09/10/2008 10:08:46 AM PDT by highpockets
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