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Obama Barely Leads in Michigan (New Dem Poll Has it 47-46)
publicpolicypolling ^ | 9-08-08 | DEAN DEBNAM

Posted on 09/08/2008 10:49:28 AM PDT by icwhatudo

Raleigh, N.C. – On the heels of a successful Republican convention Barack Obama’s lead in Michigan is down to just a single point. He has a 47-46 advantage over John McCain.

The selection of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate appears to be a hit with Michigan voters. 45% of respondents say they are more likely to vote for McCain because of his running mate selection, while just 30% say Joe Biden joining the Democratic ticket makes them more likely to vote for Barack Obama.

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PPP surveyed 1,147 likely voters on September 6th and 7th. The survey’s margin of error is +/-2.9%.

(Excerpt) Read more at publicpolicypolling.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008polsl; dempollsters; electionpresident; mccain; mccainpalin; mi2008; michigan; obama; poll
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To: AFPhys
Mountain states are solid for McCain/Palin now, as are the major battleground states of last election: PA & FL.

That's wishful thinking. I think the GOP will ultimately take CO, but it's still in play. I feel the same about FL. PA? I have my doubts, but either way it's in play and is no way solid for McCain.

41 posted on 09/08/2008 11:34:47 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: Norman Bates

Palin/McCain is going to win hockey-mom Macomb County. Big. I was there - they are nuts over her (ahem, them). Stuck up Oakland County establishment pubs and Detroit/Lansing/Flint rats will make it close. Outstate is all red all the time. Grand Rapids is only big town going for McCain. Got to overcome the 106% dem vote in Detroit. Pontiac is a ghost town now - most survivors wandering around are illiterate even if you bussed them to the next voting booth. Michigan is toss up but it certainly is not a slam dunk for zerO.


42 posted on 09/08/2008 11:36:14 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: icwhatudo

1% is not a lead, it’s a “dead heat” as far as polls go.

That’s one of many things I get so tired of with the media, how they can breathlessly treat 1 or 2 percentage points in a poll with an error margin estimated at 3 or 4% as significant.


43 posted on 09/08/2008 11:42:32 AM PDT by Enchante (If Bill Clinton could juggle 5 bimbos and an angry wife then why worry about Sarah Palin?)
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To: Tigercap
I never understand why MI votes Dem. Especially considering all the failures in MI Dem politics.

That's easy. Detroit, auto-unions, state-employee's unions, and teacher's unions in any order you like.

44 posted on 09/08/2008 11:42:32 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: AFPhys

She’ll smoke a cuban cigar and bang on a conga like Bill on Election night, watching all the states go red.


45 posted on 09/08/2008 11:43:23 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: donnab

As I remember, WI and PA were closer than OH in 2004, but you would have never known it from the media. MI was almost as close as OH. Of course NH was also closer than OH.


46 posted on 09/08/2008 11:44:36 AM PDT by JLS (Do you really want change being two guys from the majority of Congress with a 9% approval rating?)
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To: Norman Bates
MI and PA are just icing on the electoral cake for us.

I'd take that a step farther and say that it's more like a dagger in the political heart of the democrat party, of which Obama is the titular head of.

47 posted on 09/08/2008 11:46:56 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: TitansAFC

There are several threads of this poll. Let’s NOT ping it. It’s a dem poll and there will be plenty more battleground polls coming soon enough.


48 posted on 09/08/2008 11:57:04 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Obadiah
But, among other things that Obama never thought about in picking Biden - is he is an egotist to the point of being crazy. If Obama were in a situation where he was surrounded by tons of polling information showing that he was sunk and the only possible solution was to attach Hillary - I'm thinking Biden might not agree to step off the ticket. An absurd situation - sure - but Biden is one crazy m***********. I can imagine that a political party, no matter how complete or lengthy it's rule book is - would never cover this contingency. He is the nominee of a political party at this point, and may or may not be entered on ballots in various states (depending on their ballot deadlines) at this point. Just a "what-if" game at this point - but an interesting potential train wreck for the Democrats.
49 posted on 09/08/2008 11:57:13 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: milwguy

Who is running that ad and how long? I want to give.


50 posted on 09/08/2008 11:58:41 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: RC2
"Obama’s lead will soon become a past figment of his imagination. His day is coming. Before that, I see him dropping his VP and trying to bring in Hillary."

He can't. He's stuck with him. If he drops Biden now, Obama will look weak for trading in Biden for Hillary afterMcCain's smash decision to pick Palin. And the Guiliani "get that Veep thing in writing" joke becomes reality, and fodder for Leno, Letterman, etc.
51 posted on 09/08/2008 12:23:39 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: snarkytart

If McCain wins all of the states President Bush won in 2004 (including OH, FL, CO, NV, IA and NM) he will win 284 electoral votes and thus win with 14 EVs to spare. If McCain wins all of the 2004 Bush states save for IA and NM, he still wins with 272 EVs. But if McCain picks off MI and PA, which gave President Bush 48% in 2004 and which have demographics that strongly disfavor Obama, then John McCain will likely win with close to 350 electoral votes.


52 posted on 09/08/2008 1:01:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: Norman Bates

I want better state pollers (Rasmussen, Mason-Dixon, Fox) before I start getting too excited about MI or PA.

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 09/08/2008 1:07:02 PM PDT by TitansAFC (In 2008, please vote GOP and show us that you love your country more than you hate John McCain)
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To: TitansAFC; Clintonfatigued; LS; LdSentinal

Rasmussen battlegrounds are coming out at 6 PM.


54 posted on 09/08/2008 1:13:10 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: tcrlaf
Seniors will decide Michigan. There is a very high percentage of them, and they ARE Democrats here. They are also not liberal on social issues on most matters. Democrats for working families is their model. Obama though.....I'll just say most of those seniors remember Coleman Young, and Kwame reminds them of him. The 46-65 demographic is the Reagan Democrats.

I expect a lot of crossover vote, mostly from seniors.

55 posted on 09/08/2008 1:45:32 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: icwhatudo

Obama needs Michigan to win. McCain can eke out a victory without it if he can nail FL, VA, CO and some of the other swings. Obama losing MI would be a disaster for him.


56 posted on 09/08/2008 2:15:48 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: icwhatudo

Michigan usually goes democrat BUT I’m not sure this time. Detroit of course will, but much of the rest of the state is no doubt less enamored of Barak...especially with the Detroit mayor connection. It’ll be close, but I think McCain has a chance here.


57 posted on 09/08/2008 2:17:35 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: impeachedrapist
Mountain states are solid for McCain/Palin now, as are the major battleground states of last election: PA & FL.

That's wishful thinking. I think the GOP will ultimately take CO, but it's still in play. I feel the same about FL. PA? I have my doubts, but either way it's in play and is no way solid for McCain.

SHOOT - I'm sorry about my saying PA as the battleground that is now solid - I meant to write "OH" - my major error... In my dreams PA is solid, but I don't think that is true yet. However, it IS true that snObama's team is quite concerned about that state where those small town people cling bitterly to their guns and religion. Else, why did they have their whole team there over the weekend? Their polling guides their itineraries, make no mistake about that.

I hate when I miss that kind of error but I'm glad you pointed it out. I DO stand by the rest of the post, but we won't really know until the next polls in the states, though this Thurs/Fri polls of the US will provide strong guidance. Get back to me then. (I don't put any real stock in today's)

58 posted on 09/08/2008 2:20:50 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Owen

Massachusetts is one of the most lily White states and yet it is most reliably Democratic.


59 posted on 09/08/2008 2:24:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: t2buckeye

I believe that McCain may actually win more votes than Obama and lose Michigan because of the Detroit Party Machine.


60 posted on 09/08/2008 2:27:18 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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