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Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
Washington Times ^ | September 7, 2008 | Christina Bellantoni

Posted on 09/07/2008 11:17:58 AM PDT by Vision Thing

ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."

The three words - immediately corrected - were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on This Week, when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abcnews; fauxchristians; husseinobama; islam; mohammedanism; muslim; mymuslimfaith; obama; obamabiden; obamuslim; religiousleft
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To: Vision Thing

I actually was quite impressed with George Stephanopolis in that interview. I hate how O’Reilly acted like they were buddies. Obama stabbed O’Reilly in the back at the first opportunity. He is not your friend O’Reilly. He is not a ‘good guy’. Your own ambition and self importance is blinding you and many others.


161 posted on 09/07/2008 12:57:16 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: bushsupporter30

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5745258


162 posted on 09/07/2008 12:57:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Danae

It’s stalled at 1723 views.............


163 posted on 09/07/2008 1:00:25 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Palin/McCain 08- So let it be written, So let it be done!)
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To: supercat
Yes. An easy and natural slip in understandable. The larger issue here for me is more how he is so slimy and slippery and deceptive in how he talks. He confuses people and that is utterly purposeful--if for no other reason is that is allows people to project their own hope and understanding to what or what may not have been said. In someone who is applying for the most powerful position in the world we do not need a verbal slippy-slide, we need clarity and facts and accurate information--not a constant confusion over, "Now what did he just say?"

As we can see with the Obama bots this projection based on varied takes on what he says can create a foundationlesss worshiping that do not deal with facts, foundation, or clarity. Atleast we know where John McCain and Sarah Palin are coming from and what exactly their experience is.

It is understandable you are questioning and bringing your own understanding to this. This is healthy and based in reality. Obama's ambiguity relys on other people doing the work to try to understand. Which means he is walking, talking confusion. Look. We have a whole thread on trying to figure it out.

164 posted on 09/07/2008 1:08:07 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: AuntB
Here's a shorter link to a longer video cut, from which your (scary and exposing) clip was taken:
Barack Obama Versus Religion
He concludes that faith is a prejudice, used as a tool of attack, to belittle us. He makes reference, part way through, to the "church" in which he is speaking. I wonder what kind of church it is; certainly not what I'd call a church.

As an atheist, but as an American who fully supports the -essential- role that the Christian faith has always played in our public life, I find his views offensive and scary.

165 posted on 09/07/2008 1:10:21 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: AuntB
Thanks, AuntB!
166 posted on 09/07/2008 1:10:42 PM PDT by backhoe (Sarah America!)
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To: GOP Poet
Well said.
167 posted on 09/07/2008 1:11:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
I'm just saying that this is a clear example where the temptation to take things out of context and make them seem other than they are will not serve us well.

That being said, imagine the response at DUh...

Good, now let 'er rip!....

168 posted on 09/07/2008 1:12:09 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cicero

Excellent points!!!!


169 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:01 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ThePythonicCow
And here is a video clip of Dobson's critique of Obama's religious positions:
Leftist Obama Distorts the Bible, Attacks Christians

170 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:38 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: GOP Poet
Obama's ambiguity relys on other people doing the work to try to understand.

As a former liberal, let me make one thing very clear: any attempt to expose Obama on the basis of statements that could possibly be construed in a manner favorable to him is going to be counter-productive.

The quote of Obama's I'd most like the video for is when he promises not to take away people's guns, and says something to the effect that "Even if I wanted to, I don't have the votes in Congress." Had he made a statement like "Even if I wanted to, the Constitution wouldn't allow it", such a statement would have been innocuous, but the statement he actually made very clearly implies "If I somehow get the votes in Congress, I'm taking all your guns". And that statement, on video, would shine so brightly as to penetrate even densest Liberal Mind Fog.

171 posted on 09/07/2008 1:18:49 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Caipirabob
Yup.
172 posted on 09/07/2008 1:24:43 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Vision Thing

The eyes tell it all...


173 posted on 09/07/2008 1:26:37 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Pray for our side!)
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To: Vision Thing
You have to listen to the entire section where this is mentioned. It's NOT a mistake, but Stephanopoulos was so quick to step in and then be corrected by Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD11Urqx3og Part One 10:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9xKZWP6i1E Part Two 8:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng Part Three 6:10

Here's my BIG Question -- Why "MY Muslim faith" instead of "THE Muslim faith." He does inadvertently admit to having a Muslim faith.

Listen to Part Three for the interruption and correction and also Obama being willing to debate with Palin. NOT. The way it sounded to me, he wants to meet her for some one-on-one Basketball.

174 posted on 09/07/2008 1:27:02 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: supercat
Er ... eh ... you confuse me ;).

You state that it will be counter-productive to try to expose Obama on the basis of his ambiguous statements, and then immediately go to trying to expose his anti-gun views on such basis.

How are you suggesting -would- be a productive way to expose him?

175 posted on 09/07/2008 1:35:09 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Vision Thing

Wow! B.O. didn’t even act like a mistake was made. He was more like if you say so George.


176 posted on 09/07/2008 1:40:20 PM PDT by TBall
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To: ThePythonicCow
How are you suggesting -would- be a productive way to expose him?

His statement that, even if he wanted to ban all guns he don't have the votes in Congress, is not ambiguous. Even in my liberal days, I would have recognized that such a statement really means "I may not be able to get the votes in Congress to ban all guns, but if I can get those votes you bet I'll do it."

In the "my Muslim faith" case, there's a plausible and harmless explanation for what he meant. In the gun-ban case, there is no plausible good explanation for why he would regard a Congressional vote as the primary obstacle to a gun ban. Liberal Mind Fog Disorder may allow a person to craft some pretty amazing justifications for people's words and actions, but the gun-ban statement would go beyond its power.

177 posted on 09/07/2008 1:51:59 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Ok -- so you're suggesting we expose his clearly wrong statements, and not waste time trying to expose the ambiguous or easily explained away statements, right?

But even your (sensible enough) explanation of his anti-gun position required more thought than one can usually expect to convey in a 10 second sound byte, which is I fear the median attention span of potential voters.

As others have noted, Obama intentionally confuses and obfuscates and complicates, so as to leave many with the comfortable sense that he agrees with them, and to avoid clearly presenting his own views, which likely most of us, even most Democrats, would strongly disagree with.

I think Sarah Palin is showing us all how to attack that. She's good!

178 posted on 09/07/2008 2:05:08 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: davisfh

I just viewed it on youtube so it is available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw


179 posted on 09/07/2008 2:15:44 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG....)
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To: Eye of Unk

LMAO yep the libs are this stupid.


180 posted on 09/07/2008 2:19:29 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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