Posted on 09/06/2008 5:37:10 PM PDT by mnehring
In a radio interview earlier this week, U.S. congressman Ron Paul said it may become necessary for citizens to resort to physical opposition if the government continues to erode civil liberties and commit international acts of aggression.
Asked by radio show host Alex Jones if he believed in the use of violence or other physical action to oppose an unjust government, Paul, a one-time presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party and a contender for the Republican presidential nomination until he dropped out of the race earlier this year, answered in the affirmative.
"Well, there's always that possibility that, that time will come." he said. "I believe in that."
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Exactly! I’m no fan of Kook Paul, but like a broken clock sometimes he’s right.
Odumbo manages to win such a confrontation might not be that far off.
For instance, try to take away my guns, try to implant the verichip under my skin in the name of fighting terrorism, deny me my right to practice and express my religion by deeming it hate speech and see if I sit still and take it.
At some point there will be a line that gets crossed where “we the people” throw off such a government and provide new leadership which is precisely why the second ammendment exist in the first place.
You guys remember what it was like under Clinton and his minions like Janet Reno engaging in war against the American people? Right-wing Militias were gathering all over the country. If Obama (God forbid, as Savage would say) should be elected, we may have an armed civil war on our hands, like it or not.
...and yet, we got rid of Clinton without any of those militias doing a thing about it.. I’m sure they had fun camping and hunting.
The Constitution is great, we don’t need REVOlution.
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it.”
- Mark Twain
Have you noticed how this year the Republicans are supporting a socialist for President and the Democrats are supporting a Communist.
Just when in your opinion will it be time to put our Country before our Government? How close are we to losing our Republic? Pretty damn close from the way I look at it.
Translation - foreign policy initiatives that may benefit Israel
More and more we are not going to be allowed to use remedies to fix govt. There are many examples, such as withholding taxes. The remedies will become illegal despite how we vote
***We don’t need to do what they did because they did it for us.***
We get the government we deserve. If we have a ‘socialist’ president (that really is dumbing down the definition of socialist) then it is OUR fault. We failed to educate the public, we failed to get behind a real conservative in the primaries, and we will have another opportunity to fix it in four years. The fault is with WE not THEY.
I see no caveats in his quotes. The Articles of Confederation which were considered the law of the land were in effect at the time.
The founders and the Constitution are insulted, ignored, and spat upon by all three branches of the federal government and they're being trained to do so by the liberal law schools all over the country. The fabric of our country is at great peril. Read what he said again - its very relevant to our current state of affairs:
It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.
The founders were smart enough to realize that it is possible that any government, no matter what its constitution and laws said, could become tyrannical. There have been plenty of examples all over the world. In those circumstances voting and impeachment, or removal of the tyrant by the action of law are no longer possible. That's why the founders included the 2nd Amendment - so the citizenry could, if necessary in extreme circumstances, remove the tyrants and restore the Constitution and the rule of law.
Our state recognizes, in its state constitution, the right and in fact the obligation of citizens to do so:
[Art.] 10. [Right of Revolution.] Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
This article was adopted on June 2, 1784, by the founders of our state.
The right and the obligation to "reform the old, or establish a new government" is entirely consistent with the oath of allegiance to our Constitution, for as others have noted, the reform would be to re-institute the rule of law under the Constitution.
Thank you, my fellow American.
“Actually, in a Representative Democracy, we don’t even have a historical precedent for this being necessary.”
Weimar Germany was just such a representative democracy, and Chancellor Adolf Hitler gained his office by legal means.
I don’t believe that we will be able to use out Courts or ballot boxes to swing America back to the right. Why, you ask? If we are moving to the Left then it is by design, not accidental. Just who is in control of the media would be able to give you a much clearer position of exactly who is running our government because it sure as heck doesn’t appear to be anyone concerned with our future as a Republic.
Get ready to bow to the UN flag is what I’m saying.
You are right. I stand corrected. I actually should have remembered that as I had a great-great uncle who was part of the Weimar resistance against Hitler and was murdered in Dachau.
What’s interesting about this (because you brought it up, and it is relevatnt, I’ll suspend calling Godwin’s law)- was how Hitler came into power. He revolted against the established government, using the fear of governmental conspiracies. He started his rEVOLution with the youth, making them fearful that the government was a conspiracy controlled by secret controllers (Jews) who ran the government and banks.
If we are going to learn from this, we should learn from both sides of that battle. Be careful of people trying to start revolutions based on conspiracies of hidden controllers and fear.
The Constitution? Oh, you mean the Law of the Land, probably the most inspired and enlightened national legal foundation ever created? The one that is being systematically ignored and violated with impunity by every branch of the federal government, egged on by the liberal law schools who teach the Constitution is NOT the law of the land? If it takes a revolution to reestablish it, so be it.
Snake “Ron Paul” Pliskin
“Do you advocate violence against a government that was chosen by it’s people?”
Every four years or so we go through the “election” process. We listen to weeks or months of propaganda dished out by two supposedly different political parties in the faint hope we will be able to elect someone different from the guys presently in office. Each time we just get more of the same though perhaps with a different letter in front of their names.
Within a few weeks we find that our new “leaders” just can’t do all the stuff they promised until we give them more money. So we open our wallets and empty our bank accounts, once again hoping for a change in the status quo and once again we get the short straw.
This election may be different. I hope so because it’ll be my last. But even as I type these words there are strings being pulled, payoffs being made and backs getting scratched to assure that nothing significant will change in 2009, that the government elected by “the people” will, in effect, be the government most favorable to those special interests that pull strings, make payoffs and scratch backs.
Unless this upcoming election actually makes changes in the staus quo we will have to assume (except for those who refuse to see the light) that the election system is broken as badly as any other system operated by our broken government.
Ron Paul said in that interview only what many of us here have said: That, sooner or later, we the people will have to take up arms against whomever is ruling at the time.
Or: Democracy---That form of government whereby the common people know what they want and deserve to get it, good and hard. (H.L. Mencken.)
..and who gets to call that ‘revolution’ on?
We should be just as concerned about charismatic leaders are calling for a revolution on the basis of conspiracy and fear. We saw where that got Europe a half a century ago. That revolution overthrew a democracy and replaced it with a fascist dictator- all founded on the basis that the democracy was corrupt and run by conspiracies of banks...
We should also fight against false revolutionaries to protect the Constitution and the United States.
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