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Jewish voters may be wary of Palin (Media checking out her church)
Politico.com ^ | 9-2/3-08 | Ben Smith

Posted on 09/03/2008 10:33:33 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Barack Obama has struggled for 18 months to lock down the support of a traditionally Democratic group, Jewish voters.

In the past week, John McCain may have helped Obama with his Jewish problem by choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

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But Democrats hope Palin's social conservatism, her paper-thin record on Israel, and - perhaps most importantly - her cultural roots in evangelical Christianity may be a major turnoff to Jewish voters, just as Republicans have tried to reach women disappointed that Obama didn't choose Hillary Clinton,

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There is almost always an inverse proportion between a candidate's popularity among conservative Christians and secular Jews - said Jeff Ballabon, a Republican lobbyist long active in Jewish politics who supports McCain.

An illustration of that gap came just two weeks ago, when Palin's church, the Wasilla Bible Church, gave its pulpit over to a figure viewed with deep hostility by many Jewish organizations: David Brickner, the executive director of Jews for Jesus.

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Palin was in church that day, Kroon (her pastor) said, though he cautioned against attributing Brickner's views to her.

The executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council, Ira Forman, cited the "cultural distance" between Palin and almost all American Jews."

"She's totally out of step with the American Jewish community," he said. "She is against reproductive freedom - even against abortion in the case of rape and incest. She has said that climate change is not man-made. She has said that she would favor teaching creationism in the schools. These are all way, way, way outside the mainstream."

Huffington Post on Tuesday posted portions of Palin speaking at her former church, a politically conservative Assemblies of God congregation, in which she suggested that an Alaska pipeline plan reflects God's will.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antijewihshmedia; bias; jewish; jewishvote; jewsforjesus; kroon; mediapropaganda; msnbc; palin; palinandgod; palinattacks; propaganda; propagandawingofdnc; sarahpalin
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

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“She’s totally out of step with the American Jewish community,” he said. “She is against reproductive freedom – even against abortion in the case of rape and incest. She has said that climate change is not man-made. She has said that she would favor teaching creationism in the schools. These are all way, way, way outside the mainstream.”

Such a target rich environment! Let’s start at the top of this steaming pile. Got your boots on, everyone?

“She’s totally out of step with the American Jewish community.” That is not correct. The corrected sentence reads as follows:
“She’s totally out of step with the Big Sh*tty, Liberal, socialism impaired, segment of the American Jewish community.”

Even on South Beach, nearly 50% of the Jews were not suffering the Marxist/Stalinist delusions of their parents, as of some years ago. That from the Head Master of a Jewish secondary school on South Beach, no less.

Stepping deeper, we encounter this deliberate deception:
“She is against reproductive freedom.”

This classic Femi-Nazi talking point is what even middle school debaters recognize as a “wife beater” accusation. Mr. Deception has substituted the Liberal line “reproductive freedom” for the correct word, which is “abortion”.

Now, Gentle Readers, we must step carefully, and remember not to allow ourselves to begin to laugh, lest we find ourselves laughing so hard that this steaming pile of Liberal talking points we are wading through overtop our boots. Remember, don’t laugh at this line.

She has said that climate change is not man-made. [Author’s note: “climate change”

She is right, Mr. Deception is wrong. What do I base that position on? The greatly abbreviated list is sufficiently long to require a separate paragraph of its own. Before we get to the list, consider that Mr. Deception conveniently forgot that climate has always changed. He is attempting to have you, Gentle reader, confuse normal climate variation with man-created (anthropogenic) climate change. Sneaky!

The historic record, the geological record, the isotopic ratios in polar ice research, the Viking records/history in Greenland, and the temperature records of the last 100 years (once the records were corrected for the Urban Heat Island error), the French vineyard records of the last 1,000 years, ALL support her position. Not to mention many, many, many other indicators of past climate/temperature history, too many to list here, which likewise support Governor Palin’s position and refute Mr. Deception’s position.

The reality is that “anthropogenic Global Warming”, to give Mr. Deception’s talking point its correct name, is just the latest and largest attempt to impose Big Government control of energy as a means to actualize the socialism Mr. Deception has embraced.

In embracing socialism, Mr. Deception has also, and unavoidably, rejected his birth right as an American citizen, his Unalienable Rights. Socialism is antithetical to, and irreconcilable with, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and all but the post-New Deal era of American history.

But, I digress.

Wading on, we come to the edge of Dr. Deception’s pile of deceptive statements and find this last, mini-pile. Let’s not simply look away as we avoid stepping into it. Instead, carefully examine what Mr. Deception has attempted with this last, desperate line:
“She has said that she would favor teaching creationism in the schools”.

What she actually said, and meant, is that when the parents want an idea discussed, educators should so do. Governor Palin, like other Evangelicals, objects to evolution being presented as a truth with no mention being made of other hypotheses, beliefs, etc.

In so objecting, Governor Palin has taken the high ground because her position is also the position of academic freedom of inquiry, the position of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, etc.

In this refutation of Mr. deception’s deceptions, I have been as reasoned and polite as his deceptive argument deserves. He is a fortunate Liberal, indeed. Had Governor Palin written this, this article would have been far shorter, vastly less charitable, and the entire nation would be laughing at Mr. Deception’s simplistic and transparently deceptive arguments.


81 posted on 09/04/2008 6:32:28 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru
What she actually said, and meant, is that when the parents want an idea discussed, educators should so do.

It reminds me of what McGuffy (an early educational reformer and author of the McGuffy Readers--most of which would be completely beyond the average middle and high school students) said about parents and education. He said that teachers, of all people, should know how to teach whatever the subject happens to be, but that it is the prerogative of the PARENTS, not the teachers, to determine what subjects are to be taught.
82 posted on 09/04/2008 6:39:23 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kolokotronis
Does this reflect AoG theology or just some news flash from God to Palin alone?

It reflects the jihadist elements of some fringes of Christianity. They think like the Mohammedans, but worship Jesus.

Her former pastor used to say that all those who don't support Pres. Bush will go to hell. This is the background of a potential next president.

Scary. But, I think it's even sacrier that she has so many in this country who can identify with her. I guess, the frontier never died.

After her nomination, the sermons mysteriously disappeared from her AoG church site because the server allegedly couldn't handle the requests. Sound's like whitewashing to me...Thank God, some people saved them before they were removed, so the record exists.

83 posted on 09/04/2008 10:06:04 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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84 posted on 09/04/2008 10:10:13 AM PDT by maggief (Difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull ... lipstick!)
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To: Kolokotronis
I am not sure why the Jewish groups are so upset with her; as an Evangelical she will be a loyal pro-Israel supporter, I am sure she fervently praying that all Jews come to Christ before the second coming.

After all, Israel and the likes of Pastor Hagee have had an uneasy love relationship, soaking up the support while dismissing their prayers for conversion.

85 posted on 09/04/2008 11:22:55 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Rachel Maddow is a Dutch retaining wall against water.

Barney Frank is a flaming bundle of sticks.

86 posted on 09/04/2008 12:16:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (Barack Obama: Black and White and RED all Over)
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To: sageb1
"I think Allahpundit posted a video debunking this garbage. She supports Israel."

So does David Brickner! His comments were (as usual) taken out of context. Here he clarifies: http://www.jewsforjesus.org/blog/20080903

There is more animosity from Jewish groups against Messianic Jewish believers than against Evangelicals. It has nothing to do with Israel support. They consider Jewish believer in Messiah as traitors as opposed to Christian Evangelicals that support Israel.BTW, what is the HTML to format a link? I've forgotten.

87 posted on 09/04/2008 12:27:42 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: Geist Krieger

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88 posted on 09/04/2008 12:34:03 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: wardaddy
for years here moderates and atheists have told me culture war doesn't matter anymore....hell, it's everything...

Rush spoke about that this morning -- "the culture war has been reinvigorated!" And he's right, of course. Haven't seen conservatives this pumpted up since '94, and '80 before that. ....14-year increments.

89 posted on 09/04/2008 1:23:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Jews Are Active in Groups of Democrats, Independents, and Undeclared Voters for McCain

VP Candidate Joseph Biden: "Tehran's Favorite Senator" vs. PM Menachem Begin, circa 1982

Pro-Israel Gov Sarah Palin: Being VP Means Going after Iran and Keeping a Flag of Israel Handy

90 posted on 09/09/2008 3:17:34 PM PDT by Ziva (McCain could never make me vote for him... but Sarah Palin can.)
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