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Conservatives Refusing to Support McCain: Here´s What You´ll Get
The American Chronicle ^
| August 26, 2008
| Nathaniel Shockey
Posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: patriot08
Go ahead, you redneck peckerwoods Go ahead, Republican Party shills who believe that the path to winning is to out-liberal the Democrat.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sorry, but killing babies by the million is not a peripheral issue for many of us.
McCain claims to be pro-life, and for the most part his record confirms it—with the exception of his dumb support of public funding for fetal stem cell research, when adult stem cell research has proven to be so much better.
But what do we make of a man who is pro-life on principle, yet is willing to take on an abortion lover as his VP, and possibly to groom him to be the next president?
Sorry, that says to me that McCain really doesn’t take this issue very seriously. He doesn’t mind killing babies if it’s politically convenient.
The situation is much like the 2006 election. Whom do you blame, the voters who stayed home, or the Republicans who kicked them in the teeth until they stayed home? It’s kind of a silly question. Don’t kick your base in the teeth, it’s not smart politics.
Frankly, McCain is a pretty marginal candidate as it is, what with McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the Gang of 14, and so on, and many people will only vote for him because Obama is so much worse. But if it’s a choice between two pro-abortion candidates, and if a vote for McCain means there will no longer be a pro-life party to vote for in the future, then—sorry—a lot of people will stay home.
And that will be no one’s fault but McCain and his stupid advisers, who decided to kick the base in the teeth one more time.
Just don’t do it. It’s that simple.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:48:29 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: rbbeachkid
McCains mother pointed out (laughing about it) that conservatives have no choice but to hold their noses and vote for her son. That was Bush 41's reelection strategy as well.
Of course he lost what should have been an easy reelection.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:48:46 PM PDT
by
RJL
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Given judges traditional longevity on the Court, its important to understand that Obamas presidency could affect every aspect of American life criminal law, civil law, trade agreements, college admissions, abortions, managed care, anything you can think of for a good thirty or forty years.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:49:17 PM PDT
by
anglian
To: patriot08
Get used to thinking it and blame the GOP leadership for making it so.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:51:17 PM PDT
by
VRWC For Truth
(No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; indylindy; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; Ricebug; ...
So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it. Oh great, the new GOP strategy: insult and belittle your constituents and then expect them to vote for you and give you money.
But hey, what else can we expect from the boneheaded idiots in the country club, Rockefeller wing of the GOP?
Screw the GOP. Let it die like the Whigs.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:52:44 PM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
To: utahagen; american_ranger
The issues surrounding this election are much lager than single moral issues, like abortion or stem cell research. The fact is tha America is being accosted by a leftist movement which is liberal socialist evolving towards fascism.
You may vote according to religious or moral values, but you may have missed the genuine issue of the devolution of our Republic into a fascist state. Then those of moral conscience will lose even the right to speak out about it. It will be outlawed as illegal hate speech. Its already happened in Canada.
Our nation will become balkanized into a mosaic of racial and ethnic provinces, administered by government morality police. English will no longer be the language of government. Our military will become so weak that we will no longer be a beacon of freedom and a sheild of protection in the world at large.
So for those who are that directly religious and moralistic, think about the sin of allowing the nation to become without the traditional freedoms which allow us all to worship as we please, and to continue to create a more perfect union of citizens.On balance for me , voting to prevent that is to prevent a greater sin of loss of the freedom tha God gave our nation so we might do good to each other and in the world. Without that freedom the issue of abortion will be irretrievably lost to the Godless.
So which will it be?
This is the context of the greater view, and I would urge all to consider it very carefully.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:53:34 PM PDT
by
Candor7
(Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he picks Mutt Romney I will have to leave the top of the ticket blank. I wont vote for any ticket with that liberal puke on it!
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:54:35 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
To: politicket
Therefore, neither one will be receiving our vote.I'm with ya. Principles over party. I was taught that this is what this country was founded on. Principles. Let's get back to what made this country great.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:55:31 PM PDT
by
taxesareforever
(Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
To: utahagen
McCain would appoint judges who are much more likely to protect (most of) the unborn
I wish I was as sure as you are. He voted for Gingsburg and already said he wouldn't appoint someone like Alito, who wore his conservatism on his sleeve. As if that's a bad thing.
To: rabscuttle385
Hope you enjoy the first ever America-hating, white-hating, radical marxist muslim President of the United States, because that’s exactly what you are advocating. Buy hey, at least you have your principles. I’m sure that will give you comfort while this nation is rendered unrecognizable by Obama and his extremist followers.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:58:12 PM PDT
by
frankiep
(Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
To: american_ranger
Your sons are a credit to who you are. You and your sons are the best of what America is. If your conscience tells you not to vote for McCain, I totally respect that. I struggle with the decision too. I have come to the conclusion that I can not let obama get his hands on this country no matter what.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:59:15 PM PDT
by
lookout88
(Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hey, that strategy worked so well in 2006 we got Pelosi as Speaker. It’s a one party cartel.
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posted on
08/26/2008 7:59:35 PM PDT
by
VRWC For Truth
(No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
To: patriot08
Well said, patriot08. Anyone who believes that a vote for anyone but McCain is not a vote for Obama is just deluded. An Obama presidency is simply unthinkable. I am hard pressed to imagine a Marine "sitting out" a firefight, or shooting at trees while enemy soldiers advance against his buddies. No way!
And as flawed as McCain is on many Conservative issues, his consistent stand against Abortion has been stellar. His only fault is a commonly-shared misunderstanding of the adult vs. embryonic stem cell debate -- but an honest pro-lifer should come around when he sees the light on that issue. As another poster pointed out, Perfect is the greatest enemy of Good.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain can still get my vote. If he doesn't pick a pro-abortion veep or pick the Huckster as veep, whom I blame for why we are stuck with McCain and not another conservative. The bad news is, if we don't win and have a strong Veep to run next time, the huckster will do it to us again.
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posted on
08/26/2008 8:01:13 PM PDT
by
Robbin
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yep, threaten us into voting for the other candidate.
I’ll tell you what Senator McCain. Instead of giving us reasons to vote against the other Liberal candidate, give me a reason to vote for you. Select a Conservative VP.
To: anglian
Given judges traditional longevity on the Court, its important to understand that Obamas presidency could affect every aspect of American life criminal law, civil law, trade agreements, college admissions, abortions, managed care, anything you can think of for a good thirty or forty years.
Actually, barring an illness, your scenario is not likely. The oldest justices are the libs. Obama would just replace one with another. The youngest justices are the conservative ones - unless one gets ill, one will not be replaced for at least another decade or more.
Using the stats of when justices retire, the likelihood of even one getting appointed in the next 4 years is slim. However, the following 8 years will be the crucial ones if we want to replace the older libs with conservatives.
I fear a McCain presidency could doom conservatism by having his liberal agenda associated with it. And impacting the 2012 election in the same way. However, if Obama and the Dem Congress (likely) pull a Carter (even more likely), we just might get a real conservative in 2012. It's a weak hope, but it's all we got. McCain already said he would not appoint a conservative (like Alito, the 'sleeve' comment is pretty telling of his mindset).
To: Candor7
Pay no attention to the the man behind the curtain making deals like McCain-Feingold with your boogey men.
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posted on
08/26/2008 8:03:01 PM PDT
by
VRWC For Truth
(No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
To: utahagen
I agree that McCain's position on embryonic stem cell research is inconsistent (to put it mildly), but McCain would appoint judges who are much more likely to protect (most of) the unborn than the judges Obama would appoint.
I suggest you think McCain's position on judges through more thoroughly. If he becomes President he will be facing socialist Democrat majority Congress, many of which he has sided on several issues in the past. You're kidding yourself if you think he will nominate Conservative judges given those facts.
To paraphrase Voltaire, the best is the enemy of the good.
To quote Ronald Reagan addressing CPAC in 1975:
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.
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posted on
08/26/2008 8:03:19 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: frankiep
Now, you should know that there has never been a conservative that gave ground on their principles to reach a political compromise.
In fact, none of our founding fathers compromised on anything.
/s
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posted on
08/26/2008 8:05:06 PM PDT
by
A.Hun
(Common sense is no longer common.)
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