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Somalians 'won't integrate' (Norway)
Aften Post ^ | 8-25-08 | Olga Stokke

Posted on 08/26/2008 6:33:33 PM PDT by dynachrome

Somalian woman who came to Norway more than 10 years ago is harshly criticizing her fellow Somalian immigrants and Norwegian authorities. In a new book, she claims Somalians themselves don't want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated. A Somalian immigrant in Oslo is blasting her fellow Somalians for resisting integration. The Norwegian welfare system lets them get away with it, she claims.

She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted.

The book written by Amal Aden, a pseudonym for the Somalian author, is already creating an uproar. Amal Aden wouldn't use her own name because of fears for her own safety

(Excerpt) Read more at aftenposten.no ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; assimilation; immigration; islam; mohammedanism; norway; somalians
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Just what religion is that, that they fear losing, hmmmmm......?
1 posted on 08/26/2008 6:33:33 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome
A Somalian immigrant in Oslo is blasting her fellow Somalians for resisting integration. The Norwegian welfare system lets them get away with it, she claims.

This sounds similar to the assimilation problems we have here in the states, funded by the public coffers.

If the current crop of immigrants here had to stand on their own feet within a short time period, they'd assimilate faster, learn the language, and become productive (and likely more conservative) Americans.

2 posted on 08/26/2008 6:41:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: dynachrome

And such a culture too.

Violence, abuse of women, listening to fire breathing mullahs instead of rational thought.

Plus, Somalia is a hell hole and they went to Norway to escape that sewer.

Like the Mexicans, they want to bring their sick and corrupt culture to the “Land of Plenty” and RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE.

The Marxist Enablers of Norway - they are probably from California.


3 posted on 08/26/2008 6:41:48 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: dynachrome

Civilize em with a Krag.


4 posted on 08/26/2008 6:41:52 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: dynachrome

No different than here. It was just last week we read about the special muslim perks for immigrated Somalians at their jobs.

Several ‘nations’ are forming within our nation. And it never works.


5 posted on 08/26/2008 6:44:33 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: dynachrome

They come here to settle the land, not integrate with the locals. Muslim missionaries are coming to the west.

We are told we are xenophobic to question this but we are called imperialist and destroying the sovereign religious nature of the Middle East when we try to bring Christianity BACK to the Middle East which has been conquered by the Islamic state.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 6:46:03 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: dynachrome
She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted.

What a pack of Einsteins.

Let's see.....I'm going to move to a far away country that is NOT my culture, NOT my religion, NOT my language, NOT my ethnicity. And when I get there I'm going to fear losing my cultural identity.

Isn't it obvious that Islam is trying to colonize EVERYWHERE? Why else would sane individuals do this?

7 posted on 08/26/2008 6:49:15 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: dynachrome

A few years ago in Seattle, there was a rash of carbon monoxide poisonings among the small Somali neighborhood, because these people insisted on burning a charcoal fire in the living room when it got cold. As I recall there were four or five who died.

The accusation was that bags of charcoal were at fault because they only had warnings in English and Spanish...


8 posted on 08/26/2008 6:59:08 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion.

WHY the F*** are they there???!!!

9 posted on 08/26/2008 7:07:03 PM PDT by Clock King (Under revision...)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Norway works it out with THREE WRITTEN LANGUAGES, TWO IndoEuropean languages, and 9 Finno-Ugric languages ~ plus, of course, English.

Now that's the sort of thing that could make it difficult to assimilate in any country.

Wait until the Somali immigrants run into a honest to goodness Fimbul Winter.

10 posted on 08/26/2008 7:10:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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It is simple, really. Just force feed them lutefisk, that’ll send them scuttling for home...


11 posted on 08/26/2008 7:12:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: dynachrome

“Somalians ‘won’t integrate’ (Norway)”

You think that Norwegians would integrate if they migrated to Somalia? Do you think that Americans would integrate if they lived in Saudi Arabia? All this migration between totally incompatible cultures will bite the West in the ass, irreversibly. I never did understand the keen desire of the West to commit suicide.


12 posted on 08/26/2008 7:18:51 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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I don't think the Norwegians are going to be stupid enough to put up with this stuff.

Great people and great culture, and besides it's too cold for lazy, welfare losers.

13 posted on 08/26/2008 7:19:59 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: Smokin' Joe
We have some Somali people around the area. The popa was the General who took the Somali military South on maneuvers while the Ethiopian army came in from the North to attack and kill the AlQaida.

The price he paid was his country, his culture, his way of life, his language, and maybe even his religion in the long run.

The gift to America is immeasurable.

14 posted on 08/26/2008 7:22:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Clock King
WHY the F*** are they there???!!!

See post 7.

They are colonizing. They are going to all places foreign and hostile around the globe, and breeding and demanding.

And the pussified multi-culti worshipping Western leaders are collapsing like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs.

It is almost too depressing to watch. I'm definitely drinking more wine these days, fyi.

15 posted on 08/26/2008 7:24:57 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: dynachrome
In a new book, she claims Somalians themselves don't want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated. A Somalian immigrant in Oslo is blasting her fellow Somalians for resisting integration. The Norwegian welfare system lets them get away with it, she claims.

The only surprising thing about this is that anyone should be surprised about it at all.

Welfare generates and incubates pathologies like moisture generates and incubates mold.

16 posted on 08/26/2008 7:36:07 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: dynachrome

“Somalians ‘won’t integrate’ (Norway)”

Did anyone seriously expect them to?

What do Somalians and Norwegians have in common?

Did Norwegians actually think that putting Somalians into Norway would make them want to be “Norwegian”?

- John


17 posted on 08/26/2008 7:55:39 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: muawiyah
Please do not take my sweeping generalizations as universal condemnation. There is obviously a difference between the man you speak of and those referred to in Norway.

Cultural traditions can often be preserved within an assimilatd context, with some glaring exceptions which conflict with the laws of the land. In the event that is the case, perhaps the emmigrants would best settle somewhere more amenable to their traditions, rather than expect an entire nation to change to suit them.

In general, I take people on a case by case basis, and have met good folks, real jerks, and folks I do not know well enough to formulate an opinion of, in all sizes, shapes and colors.

It is the fruits of their labors, or sometimes, just their labors which speak volumes about their character, not superficialities.

18 posted on 08/26/2008 8:36:46 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 353FMG

I can tell that you haven’t lived overseas. In other countries you don’t have a choice but to integrate. You are assuming that other countries give you the choice like you get here. The opposite is true.


19 posted on 08/26/2008 9:39:45 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: willyd
It is very difficult to integrate in most European countries, especially outside of the larger cities. Euros are very ethnocentric despite what they tell the rest of the world.

Besides, as bad as we are, I tend to find that most "ethnics" at least adapt to American culture in the 2nd and 3rd generations. Canadians actually go so far as to make "multiculturalism" a government policy.

20 posted on 08/26/2008 9:43:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Commen)
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