[SJackson]

Since there are only two, the comments. I love the "Cheney did it" stuff.

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Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 8:46 am

Brandon says:

I like it when people say Bush is doing this and Bush is doing that. He isn't doing anything. Dick is in charge and he is gutting the ESA. Why care about the planet when you can make money? Money is what counts, not health or the safety and well being of people and this planet. Only the little people get sick. The rich just get drugs to take care of their illnesses.

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Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 12:06 pm

Websfear says:

And speaking of Monuments - Who was responsible for the destruction of Mt Rushmore with this gawd awfull monument to Ronald Reagan? It all but covers up the view of the mountain until you pass monstrosity to a small observation deck. Then on top of that they charge you $10 to park your car for a year, like many are ever going to do that!

Maybe the old restaurant and observation deck that was there, as depicted in the movie 'North by Nortwest' was getting old. But at least you could see the monument from miles away and not have to pay an extortionist besides. Not any more!

[bruinbirdman]

GW has a stack of unsigned executive orders ready to be signed Jan 19,2009. Good show. Hope one of them is Escalante.

yitbos

[Prince Caspian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q3upFx4FcA

[padre35]

The ESA deserves to be gutted, it demands gutting.

Environmentalism is Communism holding a baby bunny...

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Wow, I haven't been to Mt. Rushmore in about 15 years, I didn't know there was a Reagan monument, I'll have to get back.

As to the comment from Websfear the first time I saw Rushmore was from a distance, after a few days of backpacking in the Black Elk Wilderness to the south. I'd recomend it, and you'll save the $10 for parking. If you don't want to walk, you'll have to wait for the Obama refundable National Park Parking Tax Credit.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

What will Bush say if he gets his way on the Endangered Species Act?

It's about time people were first and not some stinking gopher !

[AuntB]

“When he set aside the national monuments a few days before he left office, Clinton said: “If there is one thing that unites our fractious, argumentative country across generations, parties and time, it is the love we have for our land.”

What will Bush say if he gets his way on the Endangered Species Act?”

Gut it!! Deep and wide. Mr. Berry needs to take a look at the ‘monuments’ Clinton enacted, like Soda Mtn which only destroyed access to private property, etc. And the use of the ESA as a tool by envirolawyers to get rich from. That is the only purpose it’s served.

It’s silly to worry about Interior Dept. not protecting species, it’s filled with enviroweenies.

[kitchen]

... the Bush administration moved to gut the Endangered Species ...

You've got to gut 'em before you can eat 'em. There's room for all God's creatures, right next to my mashed potatoes.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Good. The ESA has been used by America hating envirowhacko commies to cripple our energy production for decades.

[VeniVidiVici]

This can be a burden, and a lot of scientists and conservationists might go along with the idea that the law needs some changes. Rules have already been revised numerous times. But at a time when scientists say species are declining an epochal rate, do we really want to eliminate science from decisions on the fate of 1,353 animals and plants on the U.S. threatened or endangered species list?

Considering how many "scientists" are dragging us down the bottomless tunnel of "Global Warming" these new rule changes are a godsend. No more can these so-called experts hold up projects for years at a time.

[SECURE AMERICA]

Bush rushes to gut Endangered Species Act

Good.. The only real endangered species is the Real American.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Anyone wondering which immediate family members President Bush will need to pardon at the eleventh hour, ala Clinton?

ROFLMAO!

President Bush is awfully good at the ‘Rope a Dope.’ I’m betting he leaves America lots of lovely parting gifts. :)

[dalereed]

Gut it isn’t good enough, eliminate it!

[marsh2]

Listings are often made on the basis of “best available science” including no science or little science. That is how our SOCCC coho was listed. They had no historic information on the size of the runs. Moyle had done pressence and absence studies, but coho are three year cohorts and he only did two of the three years. One of those runs is robust, one middlen and one poor.

Also, genetics indicated that some of the runs were derived from hatchery fish imported from Skamania Washington - not even native to the area. Nevertheless, they listed the coho under ESA and have used it to take water from farms, fallow ag land, prohibit forestry activities, close roads and slowly constrict land use activities until we starve. How are you supposed to “restore” populations on the fringes of their range if there is no documentation that robust populations ever existed?

You should see some of the “political” science that passes for science by the Riverkeeper and Cal Trout. They hire a scientist, do a vapid and biased study and then government agencies embrace it as foundational and base decisions upon it. They just did that with our dam issue. The environmentalists hired their scientist, who used an obscure experimental sediment model that assumed a particle size at variance with reality and handed the bogus results to the Coastal Conservancy. The CC embraced the flawed study and built upon it for costs analysis. Meanwhile, one of the largest dam removal projects ever considered in the United States is relying on a complete piece of cr*p model to predict impacts on communities downstream.

Don’t buy the “science” argument. Most of what environmentalists pass off as science is political science.

[Carry_Okie]

Empty posturing before a Democrat Congress.

Bush had his chance and blew it.