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Russia Briefly Seizes Georgian Port (U.S.-owned vehicles stolen by Russian thugs)
The Wall Street Journal (excerpt) (subscription required) ^ | August 19, 2008 | GUY CHAZAN

Posted on 08/19/2008 2:13:34 PM PDT by HAL9000

Excerpt -

POTI, Georgia -- Russian troops briefly seized control of the economically vital Georgian port of Poti Tuesday morning, a day after Moscow said it had begun pulling its forces out of Georgia.

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The Russians also confiscated five jeeps and an armored Humvee belonging to the U.S. armed forces, according to Alan Middleton, CEO of Poti Sea Port Corp. He said the equipment was used for joint U.S.-Georgian military exercises and was sitting in the Poti container terminal ready to be shipped back to a U.S. base in Europe.

"I suppose the U.S. won't be impressed by losing their equipment," said Mr. Middleton.

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(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; georgia; humvee; jeep; ossetia; poti; russia; russiantroops; southossetia; war
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To: MarMema

They drink, they curse, they fart, they dare each other with cruel and crude tricks, they are coarse pigs. I really hope we get each one of those Humvees back, or take an accounting for the value of a good, clean and well-ordered machine let to thugs.


41 posted on 08/19/2008 7:52:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: MarMema

You inspired me so I went and just bought this.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260274417390


42 posted on 08/19/2008 7:54:12 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker

Cute, did you see the cartoon on a thread with Putin tipped off and Stalin just underneath?
I loved it.


43 posted on 08/19/2008 9:20:07 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: eastforker

Oh duh, right above. I have been posting too much lately...


44 posted on 08/19/2008 9:20:29 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: MarMema

Does that chart actually represent the foods available in the region?

It doesn’t really look very unreasonable.
(very similar to my diet.)


45 posted on 08/19/2008 10:00:15 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: MarMema

Hey, no BDF. Let the Rooskies keep our Humvees. After all, we’ve got their Red October. /sarc


46 posted on 08/19/2008 10:02:11 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("I don't believe that people should be able to own guns." - Barack Obama)
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To: HAL9000
The journal should know that the Bear has had that Port for days.....Not briefly IMO.
47 posted on 08/19/2008 10:03:03 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Soetoro???? Who is Barry Soetoro? Bwahahahahahahahaha!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Lets go barrow some of their stuff.

(And then use it on em’)


48 posted on 08/19/2008 10:03:36 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: MarMema

No, he’s not. Georgia has shown up in my dreams at night, each night since Russia began its war on Georgia. You, OTOH, have people you care about — right there— in Georgia.


49 posted on 08/20/2008 3:02:33 AM PDT by Alia
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To: redstateconfidential
Russia wages war through terror and intimidation on the population, the weak and effeminate response of the West will only set the stage for a greater conflict down the road. Meanwhile the Georgian people wait for more than a diplomatic response from us. Will we step up, I am not sure. The Russians are playing , knowing how quickly we are distracted by bright shiny objects, one Madonna affair, one George Clooney colon spasm,from the press shelving Georgia to the back section. If this was a fair world ,the remaining Chechen thugs would be hiding 300 miles from the border ,praying to Allah at the top of their lungs in a muddy ditch ,that they never face Avenging Angels again.

I understand your sentiments; but suggesting that America JUMP into a laced time-bomb hundreds and hundreds of years old and do something equivalent to a surgical strike is not realistic. A primary surgical strike has been done -- Iraq and Afghanistan, thereby cutting off suppliers to the Russians, on multiple levels. The Democrats fought this every damned step of the way.

And the problem isn't just Americans being so distracted with their "shiny objects" -- it's a problem all around the world. And we get to see several dilemnas regularly posted just here in this corner of the world, FR:

Isolationism versus Not being Isolated.
Being the World's Supercops Versus Looking after our own National Interests
, and always it's "Bush's Fault".

Question: What would a "real" conservative do: in re this situation in Georgia?

Versus what a "RINO" would do?

And somehow, America is always at fault... no matter where in the world evil is flourishing.

I look back at election 2000: Gore versus Bush. Gore would have been a better choice??

I look at election 2004: Kerry versus Bush. Kerry would have been a better choice?

Liberals aren't the only ones looking to vaunt a "Messiah" in mortal form to solve the worlds problems.

It always boils down to money. Poor countries need it; ask for it. America helps where it can. And yet, it is always never enough to stave off evil happening in that country. Clinton gave $4billion to Russia in the 90s. Most all of that got into the hands of skinheads and Russian Mafia, laundered through numerous countries, and some ended up back here in the US, launching Dem interests.

There is evil in the world. America and Republicans can't do this alone. Perhaps we all should vote for candidate "X" third party this election; and in that way state, as more innocent lives are taken, Not my fault: I voted for a guy who would have done the right thing; but no one voted for him but me.

Yeah, there's plenty of blame to go all around.

Sure, there's those who voted for Bush; but disagreed with "how" he did things. They got a cowboy when instead they wanted a Howitzer for President.

The problem is, things always look so simple from the Outside.

Being in the actual arena is another story.

I do not fault the range of conservatives for their views in re American politics and policies. Conflict can and does serve to bring up issues and ways of viewing matters which lead to a far better resolution.

War is hell; and, merely being mortal can sometimes be hell enough.

Yet here on FR, are private brawls still going on over various elections, and who constitutes a "rino" versus a "true" Republican.

And somehow we'll all just magically wrap our hands around grokking the entirety of what's going on in the Caucauses and Russia, and get on the same page to stop evil in its tracks?

Is this what you mean by the Effeminization of America? The Pink Politics kind of petty squabbles?

If this was a fair world ,the remaining Chechen thugs would be hiding 300 miles from the border ,praying to Allah at the top of their lungs in a muddy ditch ,that they never face Avenging Angels again.

I'm with you 100% right there.

We have to obey laws, treaties, pacts. And there are a ton of 'em. Posturing that we simply not obey those laws, work within those laws, to "do the right thing" then, makes us, what?

redstateconfidential, no need to respond to my rant.

50 posted on 08/20/2008 4:16:24 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
Barbarians at the gate? Surely then Crassius we may buy them off with Gold...for our armies are far away on campaign,...get the hence to the royal treasury for gold, they will listen to treaty and flowery words upon papers. Once again, I am gonna call the Georgians, the Apaches scouts of General Crook.
51 posted on 08/20/2008 10:03:27 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: redstateconfidential

Understood.


52 posted on 08/20/2008 10:55:15 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Thank you for your recognition of this.


53 posted on 08/20/2008 12:40:33 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: MarMema

I wish there was something more I could do to ease your worry; and your friends their suffering, MarMema. However! You have been outstandingly on top of everything going on there; including email you’ve gotten from your friends in Georgia, and bringing friends in Georgia to FR.


54 posted on 08/20/2008 5:37:32 PM PDT by Alia
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