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On Fox News- Obama Fake Certificate of Life Birth
Fox News ^ | August 15, 2008 | PaulFVillarreal

Posted on 08/16/2008 7:58:17 PM PDT by motoman

Jerome Corsi goes on FOX News & destroys Barack Obama, Daily Kos, other critics

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; corsi; obama; obamacolb; obamafamily; obamanation; obamatruthfile
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To: Diggity

I think you have it right on the money.

Granny has been told that if she can’t spout the party line, she needs to stay quiet.

I’ll bet their relationship is not good.


41 posted on 08/16/2008 9:21:31 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Diggity
He has a ton of PR to gain if he would come out and prove all of this to be just rumours. He could get a lot of sympathy and make more whites feel quilty that he was mistreated.
Why cash this check right now. He needs to wait until the controversy breaks in the press. That's when he gets the maximum benefit from it.
42 posted on 08/16/2008 9:22:57 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Are you saying it is intentional on Obama’s part? A trap? I wouldn’t put anything past anyone running for a office that high. But one thing to consider is that when people hear a lie or rumor they often remember the first thing they heard. They don’t always hear the retraction or that it was a lie. So those there is always going to be a segment of people out there that is going to think said rumor is true. If it was me I would rather no rumor like that be out in the first place.


43 posted on 08/16/2008 9:25:50 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: CaliGirl-R

Oh yeah, this whole campaign cycle has HillBilly’s fingerprints ALL over it.

The lefty’s know that the MSM isn’t gonna deal with their Obamessiah; Hillary is hoping the RNC “outs” Obama’s COLB so she doesn’t have to.

That would be the perfect capper to her caper.


44 posted on 08/16/2008 9:26:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
So, by your logic Obama says something along the following line:

“Hey America, you probably were not aware of it, but a few fringe, right wing nut cases have been alleging that I have been hiding facts regarding my birth certificate. Anyway, it was nothing but a smear campaign - you can all just forget that I mentioned it....” Sorry - but if true, he's now in way too deep. If false, no "Gotcha" bounce from the story.

45 posted on 08/16/2008 9:27:50 PM PDT by motoman
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To: jveritas

Corsi is on the side of the people who are being trampled upon by our government. When our government power mongers become uncomfortable because someone is hitting them close to spot on, they will do anything possible to discredit the messinger.

Corsi is centered in the middle of government conspiracys on many fronts. He has exposed background information that people need to pay very close attention to.

Corsi is not a liability unless someone is on the wrong side. Then those people will do everything to discredit his character, pick out flaws and attack his positions based on word interpretations. I find it amazing that people will pick up on those planted attacks and then make the (misguided) assumption that everything he says must be wrong, so we shouldn’t pay attention to anything he says. But Corsi is spot on correct about 99% of what he says.

Government propaganda is easily spread using a willing MSM.

Disinformation, as it is called, is intended to confuse the public, discredit the messinger, as a cover to the continued abuse of power.
So who is right? Who is wrong? Depends on who is telling the story. Whistleblowers are routinely rousted by their superiors.

If Obama has a valid birth certificate, then it must be provided so as to prove all dates as required by law to establish residency and citizenship requirements BEFORE ANY FURTHER PRESIDENTIAL AMBITIONS CAN BE FULFILLED! The US Constitution CLEARLY DEFINES the LEGAL REQUIREMENTS to be President and nothing should move forward until proof is CLEAR AND VERIFIED.

Corsi clearly understands the US CONSTITUTION and is responsible for exposing many UNCONSTITUTIONAL activities by our GOVERNMENT. We can sit back and let them roll over the Constitution with each precident. Or we can work to STOP the abuse of power by not listening and being manipulated by the abusers.
Corsi is not a liability unless you are on the left.


46 posted on 08/16/2008 9:27:55 PM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

He needs to control the timing of it so he can be properly prepared for it. He should present his birth certificate a day or two before the convention or maybe on the day it starts. That way he can use the convention as a platform to maximise its effect.

John


47 posted on 08/16/2008 9:29:43 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: motoman
Only if this story was a red herring would Obama desire that his entire opposition be totally distracted and consumed with it, only for him to spring a legit B.C. at the perfect moment.
You make my point.
But FR and other Blogs do not comprise a major voting block. We simply make a big, and effective impact on very critical issues.
FR and other Blogs comprise none of the voting blocks he is interested in.

If something looks to good to be true, it probably is.

48 posted on 08/16/2008 9:30:46 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

You are giving the empty suit and his pathetic staff FAR too much credit for strategery.


49 posted on 08/16/2008 9:31:54 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Candor7

Is that Natalie’s Portmans?


50 posted on 08/16/2008 9:34:52 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
And you missed the point.

If Obama could dispel this scandal, he would have never allowed it to gather steam in this venue of all places.

For months, it has gone NOWHERE, only to remain confined to a few, largely unknown websites that have a reputation for exposing rats with a lethal effect.

51 posted on 08/16/2008 9:35:52 PM PDT by motoman
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

The State of Hawaii has publicly said that the birth certificate on Obama’s website is authentic.


52 posted on 08/16/2008 9:36:14 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: clee1

Especially considering that she is your typical white person(g).

John


53 posted on 08/16/2008 9:36:26 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Crystal Cove

If you read the article where the person from Hawaii was interviewed she did not say that his was authentic. The one on the web has been proven to be likely false.

John


54 posted on 08/16/2008 9:38:30 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: pepperhead
Are you saying it is intentional on Obama’s part? A trap? I wouldn’t put anything past anyone running for a office that high. But one thing to consider is that when people hear a lie or rumor they often remember the first thing they heard. They don’t always hear the retraction or that it was a lie. So those there is always going to be a segment of people out there that is going to think said rumor is true. If it was me I would rather no rumor like that be out in the first place.
It's a risk. They would be depending on the rebuttal being very dramatic and unforgettable. In that case what people will remember is there are a lot of kooky rumors running around.

After 2004 you can bet the Dems have given this a lot of thought.

The BC could really be a fake, but I wouldn't depend on it. Right now this frenzied mob is assuming there is no possible way the BC can be valid. That's the way to walk into a trap.

I really don't understand the statement posters have been making that there is no reason for him to not jump through hoops to satisfy the right wing blogosphere. That's a failure of imagination.

55 posted on 08/16/2008 9:44:58 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Candor7

Wut cold airconditioning might look like

Btw I would rather obama be beaten fair and square, his proles wouldn't take it easy for him to be taken out on a technicality. Just like I am not taking it easy on the screwing I got from the primaries!

56 posted on 08/16/2008 9:45:16 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophagus)
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To: guitarplayer1953
“the Republican Party is controlled by what used to be called the ‘Rockefeller Wing’.”[16] In addition, Corsi has called for the impeachment of Geoge W. Bush.”[17][18]

Yeah so?  I've done the same!  :-)

 

57 posted on 08/16/2008 9:47:14 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

The Constitution is specific about the residency requirements of a childs parents that estabilsh eligibility for citizenship.

Perhaps when the Constitution was written there were not specific birth records available, but the process of birth records rapidly evolved and was established by the US Census very early in the start of Our Republic. The ability to keep track of citizens was established because our founding fathers deemed it vital to establish birth records

“”The U.S. Constitution says nothing about such certificates as none were available when the Constitution was ratified””

That makes your assumption invalid.

I agree with you that Obama’s beliefs are dangerous. But it is also dangerous to trust without verification. Allowing a non citizen to become President sets the precident for other abuses. Just like the collection of income taxes, which was never ratified as a constitutional Amendment as required, but taxes have been collected and the precident was set for legal basis.

Every time we turn around, some court is finding some aspect of life “unconstitutional” The left would like nothing more than to manipulate the Constitution of the US to help them control and regulate free people.
This is the whole basis of everything that Corsi so staunchly exposes and stands against.


58 posted on 08/16/2008 9:53:21 PM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: motoman
Sorry - but if true, he's now in way too deep. If false, no "Gotcha" bounce from the story.
How do you figure he's in way to deep? There are plenty of ways to play this card for a good gotcha bounce.

For now, he's doing what a good candidate should do, setting his agenda and avoiding distractions.

If this issue starts to affect his target voters he will spring the trap. Not until then.

59 posted on 08/16/2008 9:55:26 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Pravious
If Obama’s birth certificate is fake, and his nationality is really listed as Indonesia in the records, wouldn’t someone in the Hawaii records department have looked it up and pointed out the disparity - on or off the record?

I would guess that you never worked in state government. I did for about 16 years. Bottom line: they do not like controversies coming out of their offices. They respond ONLY to bonafide inquiries from people (family members) who are authorized to get a copy of Obama's birth record.

HOWEVER, you do not have to be Obama or one of his family to get what is called, a Letter of Verification, which will contain everything on the COLB. It cannot be used for anything except verifying that the information is present on the record.

Any state or Federal bureaucrat can request this Letter of Verification. I would imagine that a state Chairman for a Presidental campaign would be able to get one. Certainly, the Secretary of State, or the Elections Supervisor could get one. Members of Congress can get one.

We NEED to contact our state legislators, McCain campaign headquarters, Supervisors of Elections to get one.

60 posted on 08/16/2008 9:56:05 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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