Posted on 08/16/2008 12:51:32 PM PDT by missanne
MODERN TIMES : The coming environmental revolution
"One measure of our destruction of our natural habitat is the abundance of good books devoted to stopping that destruction. Humankind is deeply pondering its relations with the rest of nature. Several of these books will be discussed at a book forum sponsored by Fayetteville’s Omni Center, at Nightbird books in the Mill Building on the corner of Sixth and School, on Sept. 12 at 6:30 p.m." Now comes a new entry into the field, one destined to change the terms of the discussion.
James Gustave (Gus ) Speth is a long-time environmental leader. A Rhodes scholar at Oxford and graduate of Yale Law School, he co-founded the Natural Resources Defense Council and served as its senior attorney from 1970 to 1977, chaired the U. S. Office of Environmental Quality under President Carter, founded the World Resources Institute and is now dean of the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies.
http://www.nwanews.com/nwat/Editorial/68177/
(Excerpt) Read more at nwanews.com ...
Really cool!
What's this mean?
Generally, that you are on the wrong end of the pointy stick covered with excrement.
/johnny
Yale Law completely wiped out any knowledge gained at Oxford.
Speth notes that, although scientists have long known that humans are causing the wholesale collapse of the natural world, ...
Please, don't encourage these people. Let them be. They only talk to one another.
“Gus” needs to be careful spewing his “credentials.” Slick Willie was a “Rhodes scholar.” From what I’ve read, he spent his days there listening to Beatle records. I don’t want to go into the alumni of Yale Law School.
I guess it takes Oxford and Yale both to inspire the generation of this level of verbal diarrhea. (PS--it's false. There is no "wholesale collapse" of anything. Except sanity among the liberaloids).
With those words in my search engine I found this:
http://www.appropriate-economics.org/materials/Democratising_the_Wealth_of_Nations_-_Turnbull.pdf
And then some days I return here astounded at what I learned. The phrase caught my attention because how can wealth be ‘democratic,’ unless what they really mean is a fair distribution of wealth. Which if that is the case the idea of fair distribution is inherently unfair. Money/wealth is a tool and it is a reflection of a man's ability to use his mind. It is not something to be taken away from him because of his virtue to be productive.
And so by Art Hobson's own writting the first thing is to move to take a man's productivity away from him, to create that highly intellectual tool of guilt for having created his own wealth.
He has no new thoughts, just read the late eighteenth early nineteenth century anarchists, they have just found another excuse to promote their failed agenda.
That makes him more dangerous than all the smoke stacks and Suv's in North America put together.
From your link I found this phrase for correcting the current capitalist system: (e) Individual property rights are replaced by collective ownership.
This gives a financial partnership between capital and labour, or natural resources and individuals.
I assumed that Democritisation of wealth meant communism, and it looks like it does.
My take away from this is that the commies in the environmental movement are ready to make their move. Global warming is nearing the limit of people’s attention span and they may think they have enough support with Obama and the congress to ram through their version of “fairness”. Of course its all Amimal Farm in that some people will always be more equal than others.
You would think that any system that improves society could be implemented without the threat of governmental force, but that is clearly the only way that some of us will give up private property. (And yes I know we are already on that road, but there will be a limit.)
Government IS the problem- Reagan..
Socialism has been ‘new and improved’ more times than Tide; the major difference between the two is that Tide still works.
I don't think this will be the kind of "revolution" they're anticipating.
They can ponder it all they want, however, as they sway in the breeze.
Except that the ringleaders have already admitted what they’re up to. The jig is up!
Liars for Jesus and Liars for Science:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2047988/posts?page=9#9
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2047988/posts?page=8#8
It means:
From each according to his means, to each according to his needs.
{Ignoring the typo)
The coming environmental revolution was created by the liberal democratic marixist socialists to mask the real reason, to kill capitolism and America.
Wow. You’re right - really Communist dogma. The sentence I really liked was this:
“America’s crisis of high poverty rates and concentrated wealth for a tiny minority poses a threat to our democracy and the environment alike.”
High poverty rates? Compared to what? I was actually a member of the working poor only 11 years ago - I’ve since worked my way up and out of it, thanks - and there are two major health problems among America’s poor: obesity and drug addiction. I’m sorry, but if your ass is as wide as a barn door and you have enough cash for really rippin’ weed, you are, by common definition, not poor.
In fact, the environmentalists are simply the latest incarnation of an old Western tradition know as “primitivism,” a belief in our culture which was well described in Jacques Barzun’s book “From Dawn to Decadence,” an overview of Western civilization. (He likes it, by the way.) For many centuries in the West, there have been groups who have turned away from the rest of the culture to “return to its roots,” so to speak, by rejecting modernity. You can see an earlier expression of this kind of “primitivism” among the Amish. The environmentalists yearn for some kind of a natural golden age in which they will live harmoniously with the Earth; their belief is deeply religious, as well as detached from any real understanding of the world as it is. A few years back, this environmental primitivism expressed itself as the hippie commune; now its expressing itself as those “living off the grid.” They’re dreamers. Maybe in a few decades they’ll be arguing among themselves about whether or not dialup Internet respects the Earth, or how many pounds of carbon they’ll be allowed to produce each day to fit the requirements of their belief.
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