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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: TornadoAlley3

Thanks! Now I remember. Really a hard time for old Barry.


901 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:52 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: XR7
Obama = Pretender

McCain = Hero

902 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:52 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: icwhatudo
No ties...another sad legacy of klintoon

Rick Warren doesn't wear them. That's the reason. They'd be overdressed.

903 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:53 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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McCain telling POW stories.........Obama can’t touch this......


904 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:53 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: conservativefromGa

Nicely said. The Nobama segment was dreadful ... like a symposium for speech pathologists.

So far, McCain is nailing it.


905 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:54 PM PDT by Daffynition (Public Notice: The answer & trick that everyone is looking for is all the same answer & trick.)
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To: Shortstop7

Warren might not have done this if he knew McCain was going to do all these POW stories.


906 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:57 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: XR7

good god there are a lot of campaign videos that will be made from his answers here


907 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:03 PM PDT by MinnesotaGuy
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To: NOBAMA in 08
Michelle's MIA?

Wonder if Barry's got an Edwards problem....

908 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:03 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: XR7

McCain is doing very well


909 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:04 PM PDT by MinnesotaGuy
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To: EDINVA

Yes oh my gosh, yes he DID, he said it “was above” his “paygrade”!

Oh my, now McCain is pulling out the torture in Vietnam, and his belief in Christ. No matter what I may think about his personal conduct in his first marriage, I have NO question about his loyalty to America...


910 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:16 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: mainepatsfan

Good GRIEF! McCain is terrific! Who knew I could almost like him?

The comparison between McCain and Obama is stark. McCain has substance...someone lives there.


911 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:20 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mainepatsfan

Good GRIEF! McCain is terrific! Who knew I could almost like him?

The comparison between McCain and Obama is stark. McCain has substance...someone lives there.


912 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:21 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Tennessee Nana
C'mon Nana....Have they asked John about amnesty yet?

Get to the hard questions!

913 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:22 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: JDoutrider

is this pastor dood a conservative?


914 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:25 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: AmericanMade1776

He’s just introspective after throwing flowers in the ocean where he left his Mothers ashes /s


915 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:28 PM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: AliVeritas

None, they would have gotten in the way of all those softballs being pitched up.


916 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:32 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: tiredoflaundry

McCain does not appear nervous, while Barry was messing his pants.

@@@@@@

Adult versus kid


917 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:42 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Just two Christians , worshipping together.. Amen.


918 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:43 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: pepperhead

He is telling the Christian guard story. It relates.


919 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:45 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: TornadoAlley3

AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION


920 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:54 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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