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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: WesA
This is the best I have ever seen McCain.

No wonder Obambi is scared to hold Town Hall meetings with him.

841 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:39 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: XR7

Hardest decision- McCain knocked that one out of the park - not cooperating with his captors in vietnam. Meanwhile, Barry was boozing it up and “discovering himself” and dealing with all the difficulty of being biracial. Hmmm.


842 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:40 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (Where's Michele??)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Rick looks chagrined going to the break.

I'll say it for him: "HOME RUN!"

843 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:42 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: razorback-bert
I have suffered racism from blacks, in Houston I got to think my name was honky.

Heck, I have been called a cracker in my own town and I don't remember getting paid for that (but it didn't bother me either). I just remember they are the stupid ones and will never do anything more than putting an X on a government check.

844 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Son House

Code of Conduct

yes mention Vietnam

POW

Honor

God Bless you John McCain...


845 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AmericanMade1776

It is going to be one heck of a landslide.


846 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:52 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: MOgirl

McCain: It took a lot of prayer, it took a lot of prayer.

Warren: Great.

WTF?!


847 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:53 PM PDT by library user
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To: mewzilla

McCain makes Obama seem as if he is running for class president.


848 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:55 PM PDT by conservativefromGa
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To: dandelion

McCain does not appear nervous, while Barry was messing his pants.


849 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:56 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: All

Does anyone else think the DBM has already submitted their stories for print..


850 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:57 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: All

Anyone else think Warren’s enthusiasm has dimmed? He looked a little troubled as they went to commercial.


851 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:58 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: nckerr

It is great McCain followed Obama .. Obama was so boring. and McCain is doing great. McCain also has his many life experiences to draw off of.


852 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:14 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hiccups


853 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

He’s making sense-sounds way better than Obama and only

said “My friends three times in 15 minutes.


854 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:39 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; All

I didn’t watch Obama. How is McCain doing vs Obama?


855 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:45 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Jaguarmike

See #835...I have to agree with you, that alone is reason enough to vote for him over BHO...this guy KNOWS what it is to have sacrificed for his country.


856 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:53 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: Son House

No question about it.

Humans are pregnant with human beings, not frogs, fish, turtles, dolphins, seals.

The child grows, hence it lives.

Go try to kill a seal or a tree down... see what happens.

If only a fetus could vote.


857 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:54 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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We are all at this moment looking at the next President of the United States.


858 posted on 08/16/2008 6:15:12 PM PDT by Dog (We have entered into the realm of 9/10 all over again...Lord help us.)
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To: eeevil conservative

is it just me—

^^^^^

McCain is showing the audience how an actual leader can articulate his ideas versus the kid from Chicago - you know, - the Law School Professor!!


859 posted on 08/16/2008 6:15:16 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: They'reGone2000

Thinkin Michelle went berserk and is out of it! Something is seriously wrong with The Moron Mess-iah and he looks like he is fighting serious depressional problems.


860 posted on 08/16/2008 6:15:17 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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