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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: mewzilla

Drink gin or drive ????


821 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Damn! McCain is on FIRE!!!!!!


822 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:33 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: HonestConservative

Not the same crowd?


823 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:49 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: AmericanMade1776

McCain is dead on message!!!!! And to think we were all McCain haters in the primary. Still would have preferred Huckabee. But I will take Romney as a VP candidate now too.


824 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:51 PM PDT by nckerr (www.myspace.com/ArmyKerrFamily)
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To: KavMan

Pro-USA pres of France

Yes


825 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dandelion

Too many uhs, and the comments about abortion being “above my pay grade”

very bad judgment; healthy, normal pregnancies should not be aborted, Barak


826 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:09 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: WesA

Did Obama receive this much spontaneous applause?


827 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:13 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: jveritas
One day I hope that General Petraeus will run for President.

I hope so, too.

828 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:19 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: FlashBack

He’s talking about his POW experience - refusing to be sent home early. Very powerful stuff.


829 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:38 PM PDT by Jaguarmike
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To: JDoutrider

JD, I think you’ll find when you read the transcript that the questions are pretty much the same.


830 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:39 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: XR7

McCain comes across sincere, he will win.


831 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:40 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
LOL Calling for us to imitate the French - use nuclear.

He's getting really good audience response.

Wow, I don't like him, but he's really sounding good.

832 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:50 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Shortstop7

W00t! Drill Here Drill NOW! re: “flip flop” on an issue! He’s really doing well with this format...


833 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:56 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: eeevil conservative
Hello,

Grab a beer and get back quick!

:)

MOgirl

834 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:56 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: nckerr

His POW decision gets me misty-eyed I have to admit...


835 posted on 08/16/2008 6:12:58 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: TornadoAlley3

He is definately the better candidate to be CIC


836 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:18 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: MOgirl

“It took a lot of prayer”


837 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:20 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Jaguarmike

Character.

What was O’s toughest decision?? I can’t remember anything he said now.


838 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:25 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: nckerr
I think McCain is doing great. Answering the questions directly unlike umm huh O hmm bama.
839 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:25 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: Son House

Code of Conduct

yes mention Vietnam

POW

Honor

God Bless you John McCain...


840 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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