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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Tennessee Nana

3 wisest...

Petraus

John Lewis

Meg Whitman... Ebay


741 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: XR7
McCain first answer about General Petraeus and the Victory in Iraq was great.
742 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:53 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: AmericanMade1776

It’s perfectly fine if you loved his book, millions did... and it helped them; It’s okay if you attend his church.

But let those who have eyes see, those with ears hear, those with the internet do their research.

OT: Ummm... McCain, could you throw in Jesus or Paul or something.


743 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:53 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Popcorn will cost more than a gal of Ethenol soon...

Well, there's always bathtub gin :)

744 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: eeevil conservative
Charles Krauthammer thought Obama did good but thought it ironic that Obama criticized Clarence Thomas for being inexperienced given his record.
745 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:05 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

WHAT!????????

what was your failure?

did Obama get that question?


746 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:22 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

So far so good.


747 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:25 PM PDT by jackv
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Yes - McCain gave 3 actual people - and no nonsense about his wife, or anything like that.


748 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:28 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (Where's Michele??)
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To: Tennessee Nana

RW asks “What is your greatest moral failure?”.................


749 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:32 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: All

Was Obama asked about his greatest moral failure? I tuned in late.


750 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:40 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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Good answer on the marriage.


751 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:53 PM PDT by Bodhi1 (Homeschools for a reason.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Yes. Drugs.


752 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:56 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

If Mc doesn’t bury himself worse.


753 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: WashingtonSource

How about closing the borders after 9/11.......


754 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:09 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: XR7

McCain is on fire.


755 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:14 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: maica

I thought it was his greatest challege...?


756 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:15 PM PDT by Toki
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To: eeevil conservative

yes. He said drinking and doing drugs.


757 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:19 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: mewzilla

Gin whats that made from ???

I know Vodka is from potatoes..


758 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: eeevil conservative

Obama did not get that question, I think.

McCain good so far.


759 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:29 PM PDT by conservativefromGa
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To: AmericanMade1776

What was Obama’s greatest moral failure? I missed it.


760 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:30 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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