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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Shortstop7
Rick Warren does not impress me in the least.

Softballs with no follow-ups. He's pitching batting practice.

Barney the Dinosaur might as well be moderating this fluff.

561 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:32 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (i hate this election.)
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To: XR7
"Teachers are underpaid - we need a higher baseline."

No, SOME teachers are underpaid. We do not need a higher baseline, we need to pay the ones who are GOOD TEACHERS BETTER and fire the others!

562 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dog

“The ONE will go down in flames.”

Agreed.


563 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: mewzilla

Refresh:

Obama chooses death for someone else over ‘PROBABLY crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality’,

Page 87

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.


564 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:48 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: kcvl

Did he end with “Homerun.” there?


565 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:00 PM PDT by Bodhi1 (Homeschools for a reason.)
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To: Son House

After “We’ll be right back” as they were fading away, I swear I heard Rick say to Bambi: “HOME RUN”.


566 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:13 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

[No he is not, he is just letting Obama stutter.. and then he gives the same question to McCain. ]

What? I have yet to see/hear McCain. It is 8:41 EDST, am I getting a delayed or altered feed from FNS?


567 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:18 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: TornadoAlley3
RW- Define rich. Obama it it it it.....

The 'Rats' unspoken definition: Anyone who draws a paycheck...

568 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Dog

I hope you’re right. But what’s really distressing is the fact that 40% of our fellow Americans believe this guy. HOPE!!! CHANGE!!!

SHEEP!


569 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:29 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Bodhi1

I heard that too


570 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:46 PM PDT by a_screen_name
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To: SE Mom

Irresponsible to spend money on war... where the surge ‘didn’t work’, yet he wants a ‘surge’ in Afghanistan.

BTW, did he mention if he moseyed over to chair his subcommittee re: NATO Euro Affairs as of yet (with everything going on in the world)?


571 posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:52 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: AliVeritas

Obama through a lei on the water for his Mommy...

That has to count as family...


572 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dog

Hhhmmm...I’m not there yet Dog...I’m still afraid of him. We’ll see. So much can happen.. (who knew Russia and Georgia would be in this mess other than Putin and his henchmen)..between now and November.


573 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:34 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All

Hey, during this break - was that a dippy commercial for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?

(no disrespect intended to LDS Freepers)


574 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:34 PM PDT by XR7
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To: jackv

[What a phoney. roberts ok but not Scalia or Thomas?? What a joke.]

Truth be known, he wouldn’t (won’t) nominate anyone to the right of Hillary.


575 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:50 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: XR7

Baloney is right...most of the teachers I know are over paid for the 9 months that they actually work.


576 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:51 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: They'reGone2000; Bodhi1

I heard “Homerun”, too.


577 posted on 08/16/2008 5:44:59 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: AmericanMade1776

No he is not, he is just letting Obama stutter

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Compared to Bobby Jindal, Krock Obama is a poor speaker.


578 posted on 08/16/2008 5:45:07 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: tiredoflaundry

More than 250 k rich

Only if you have Resko funding your home


579 posted on 08/16/2008 5:45:11 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: They'reGone2000
Let’s see if Ricky Boy is high-fiving with McCain.

hey! you're talking about a top level religious leader here
think leap of faith...
580 posted on 08/16/2008 5:45:18 PM PDT by firewalk
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