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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Theodore R.

He absolutely was. Farah was exposing Warren before most of us knew who he was.


541 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (i hate this election.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

and don’t forget... “he-he-he-here....”


542 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: AliVeritas

Let’s see if Ricky Boy is high-fiving with McCain.


543 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:22 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: MHGinTN

Good plan...((;O)


544 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:27 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: All

define “rich”.. families making 150k + are rich..


545 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:38 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Family making $250,000 your doing well and I’m after YOUR WALLET!


546 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:55 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: mombonn
CLARENCE THOMAS! Surprise, surprise.

I was betting on Roberts.

547 posted on 08/16/2008 5:40:59 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SE Mom
I no longer fear him...

He is such an empty suit...all the pretty speeches in the world can't cover that fact up...and besides with the polls running 44-44....it seems the public has figured that out also.

Freepers do not despair....The ONE will go down in flames.

548 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:10 PM PDT by Dog (We have entered into the realm of 9/10 all over again...Lord help us.)
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To: jackv

This guys puts himself above Clarence Thomas??? Unbelievable.

@@@@@@

Race trumps gender, and Party trumps Race in the Dem party.


549 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:10 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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More than 250 k = rich. tell that to a family of 4 from Calif, NY etc.....


550 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:13 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: jackv

“I’ll admit RW is asking better questions than I thought.”

Astoundingly, so do I. I’m so surprised that I’m surprised. I wish I could be upset at Warren for not reaching over and shaking Obama to make all the UUUuuuuuuHHhhhs come out. However, I’m hearing more from Obama in this interview than anyone else has pried out.

Did my ears deceive me? Did Obama just say he DIDN’T know what the housing market was doing lately???


551 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:25 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: XR7

more media applause


552 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:28 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: newnhdad

Can you believe this floppy eared moron actually taught constitutional law???


553 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:38 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Shortstop7

Idiot. We spend more $$ on oil than the war.


554 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:51 PM PDT by jackv
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To: All

Trying to justify tax increases..
How about CUT SPENDING???


555 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:55 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: KavMan

uh uh uh uh uh uh uh .. uh uh uh no one wants to pay for a war, war what is it good for...uh uh uhuh .. uh uh... who wants to pay to protect America uh uh uh uh


556 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:05 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: KavMan

Book sales...

Hillary ???

Below $150,000 is poor...

$250,000 doing well...

Obama is out of touch...


557 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jet Jaguar

Attention Deficit Obama, they’ve coached him to stop the Ahhhhh, but he hasn’t practiced enough, seen it at :37 past the hour too.


558 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:06 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Did he ask him how he threw his pastor aside (so it seemed until the Easter vacation with him when he didn’t visit the sick grandmother), so easily after 20 years?

And where he goes to church now.


559 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:23 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: GOPGuide

I’d love to know the thoughts right now of the libs in LA and NY after he said those making $250,000 were rich.


560 posted on 08/16/2008 5:42:25 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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