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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: patriotgal1787

This guys puts himself above Clarence Thomas??? Unbelievable.
What a phoney. roberts ok but not Scalia or Thomas?? What a joke.


481 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:44 PM PDT by jackv
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To: peggybac

Incredible isn’t it? Obama is a total stuttering dunce.

Wouldn’t have nominated Clarence Thomas. Isn’t that rascist?

Thomas could run rings around this incoherent dufus.


482 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:50 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: TornadoAlley3

Clarence Thomas just became my favorite justice on the Supreme Court.


483 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:55 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (i hate this election.)
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To: SLB
obambi just asked which SC Justice would he not have nominated?

CLARENCE THOMAS! Surprise, surprise.

484 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:56 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas

He says he wasn't 'intellectual enough'. What an *SS!!!

485 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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I just started watching

Warren is asking tough questions

another nice question SCJ’s asking about Roberts now...


486 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:01 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: They'reGone2000

How can this lightweight talk smack on any of those justices?


487 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:06 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

OOOOH! Paraphrased - Obama would NOT have nominated CLARENCE THOMAS because he didn’t have enough EXPERIENCE???

Just dang, man.

Obama has a lot of gall.


488 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:08 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: GOPGuide

What a pos.


489 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:08 PM PDT by conservativefromGa
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To: conservativefromGa; All

Warren is a liberal “evangelical widening the tent.” His purpose-driven crap is man-centered nonsense and not Bible-based.

It is unfortunate this man has such influence in this election as opposed to a real evangelical.


490 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:13 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: AliVeritas

Listen for Clerance Thomas’s former clerk, Laura Ingraham tomorrow on Barry’s comment


491 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Matchett-PI
That is so not true...

It's their preference & it's beautifully written.

492 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: don-o

His abortion answer was such hogwash, Lord help us if this man gets elected.......... I’m done with this thing — changing over to the Olympics and Michael Phelps RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!


493 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:26 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: KansasGirl

The question was (paraphrased) At what point does a fetus have human rights?(or similar to it)


494 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:36 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
BO says John Roberts confirms his suspicions as to why he did not support him. JR has been too willing to give an administration more power than constitution says
495 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:43 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: They'reGone2000

WOW!!!

Thomas!!!

holy hanna-—

wow
— he just pulled a double wammy.....

me thinks he was told what was going to be asked


496 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:45 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: newnhdad
Refuses to call evil, evil..

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke

497 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:51 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Yeppers...

Help the women financially so they wont have an abortion but will keep the baby...

DUH how about adoption ??????????


498 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:52 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dandelion

Steady now.. let Obama bury himself.


499 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:53 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AliVeritas
This legal midget questioning Clarence Thomas' constitutional competence?

Hillarious except it puts on display the soft racism that liberals feel toward black conservatives.

Now he's assigning powers to the SCOTUS that the constituion doesn't give it.

Please vote against this guy.

500 posted on 08/16/2008 5:35:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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