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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

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To: newnhdad

Obama said he voted against the late-term abortion ban as a state senator because it contained no exception to protect the life of the mother.

He is a liar!

July 2007

Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama criticized recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions as hypocritical and inconsistent on Tuesday, saying a ruling upholding a late-term abortion ban was part of a concerted effort to roll back women’s rights.

Obama said the court’s 5-4 rulings to uphold the late-term abortion ban, make it harder for women to sue over pay discrimination and strike down race-based school assignment programs were part an effort “to steadily roll back the hard-won rights of American women.”

“When the science is inconvenient, when the facts don’t match up with the ideology, they are cast aside,” he said.


441 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jwalsh07
'If a woman wants to keep a child ...' So the thing is a child that she should be allowed to hire a hit on unless she decides she wants to keep the child! Disgusting faux pastor Warren lets this demonic deception just whiz right on through. Yup, this is all about Rick Warren, liberal new age puke, giving Obama cover, a forum upon which to deceive the public.
442 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pepperhead

Still, he could be for Oprah’s Obama because he likes Oprah too and knows CA is in the tank for Obamamania. Warren may crave to be “liked” by his fellow Californians.


443 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:13 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: maica
"at what point does a babynegro get human rights in your view?

Would the idiot Obama say that question is known only to God??!!!

444 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:17 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: mewzilla

“Have you ever voted to reduce abortions?”

I am for reducing abortions.


445 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:23 PM PDT by cpanter (Steyn is my Obamamania!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Save the Whales
Save the Babies, naaaa


446 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: AliVeritas

He cant give a strait answer period.


447 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:29 PM PDT by conservativefromGa
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To: All

Another dodge.. he refuses to answer a question. No backbone whatsoever. Above my paygrade??? This guy is trying to be president.


448 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:30 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: pandemoniumreigns

More Coca Cola..

Something stronger...

moving up to coffee...strong coffee...black coffee


449 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: newnhdad

Man alive, I’m just glad there’s a QUESTION. I can’t believe I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t expect a QUESTION of the One...

My “gently aged” mother just said Obama stutters a lot!


450 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:44 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: AmericanMade1776
Rick Warren is letting you form your own opinion , he stated that at the beginning Rick Warren is asking the tough questions.

Rick Warren is clueless. Obama is leading him by the nose.

451 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:51 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Daffynition

speech impediment/stuttering problem!

lol!!!


452 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Obama said finances cause abortions?


453 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:11 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: mewzilla
Jill Stanek: Obama's constitutional crisis

McCain should bring this up even if Warren won't.

That is unless you agree with Obama, McCain...

454 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Rightly Biased
Guys like Warren and Hovind make me pine for the good old days of Reverand Ike:


455 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:15 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: peggybac

Does EVIL exist? yes, on my TV set right now, with a “pastor” who claims to be a man of God, and a Marxist who feels no guilt about infanticide, or the redistribution of wealth...


456 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:34 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: newnhdad

Barack Obama “argued cold-bloodedly on the Illinois Senate floor that babies who survive botched late-term abortions should not be considered ‘persons’ because this would be tantamount to admitting ‘that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a — a child, a 9-month old — child that was delivered to term.’ “


457 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jwalsh07
and I have no problem casting that stone.

Please I beg you, don't go for a head shot. I want him alive when I cast mine.

458 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:47 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Ins’t the evil question good?

Obama won’t say Iran...


459 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:49 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: cpanter

Evil ???

Obaba: Yeah sadly I see it every morning in my mirror...


460 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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