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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Tennessee Nana

You have Freepmail


1,901 posted on 08/16/2008 9:27:22 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
As a Duncan gal, I did consider not voting for Pres., or writing in Duncan Hunter.

I’m very glad I was able to see this tonight _____________________________________

same here....

Make that three. I was for Hunter, then Thompson, and then Romney. Now, I think I'm actually for McCain.

1,902 posted on 08/16/2008 9:27:55 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Pictures up

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/pings


1,903 posted on 08/16/2008 9:28:42 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: Tennessee Nana

note he responded LIGHTING FAST on that answer.

That is just as important in that answer.

Obama’s sloooow answer was basicly “see you later baby tell me what’cha gon-n-did.”


1,904 posted on 08/16/2008 9:29:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cousineasy

Well he is ancient.


1,905 posted on 08/16/2008 9:29:23 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: hsalaw

It would be nice if John picked Duncan HUnter, to give him four years of face time for 2012. But it isn’t likely that McCain will be so rational. I’m betting he picks Cantor or Pawlenty. It would not surprise me if he picked Graham though ... McCain likes to have a yes man in the wings.


1,906 posted on 08/16/2008 9:30:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: maica
That 148 million number is suspect. It works out to more than one in every fifty human beings on the planet is an orphan child.

I'm an orphan. I should also mention I'm 62 years old and my parents, may God bless them and keep them, lived to a ripe old age.

1,907 posted on 08/16/2008 9:30:35 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Ladycalif

Why do I only get my pings?


1,908 posted on 08/16/2008 9:31:00 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: longtermmemmory; SwinneySwitch; tennteacher; lonewacko_dot_com; radar101; ruination; gubamyster; ...

Pictures from Saddleback Tonight -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2063167/posts


1,909 posted on 08/16/2008 9:31:18 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: MHGinTN
I think we're gonna need the mega industrial strength size


1,910 posted on 08/16/2008 9:31:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Norman Bates

I think y’all are getting a little too giddy about this one, personally.

But McCain did have the better night, and Warren did nothing to ambush him. So I was wrong about that.

It’s not the first time, it won’t be the last time.


1,911 posted on 08/16/2008 9:31:55 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (i hate this election.)
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To: STARWISE

Stealin’ that one fer shur!


1,912 posted on 08/16/2008 9:32:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Have at it ... LOL.


1,913 posted on 08/16/2008 9:33:46 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Joe Loya said he saw us on TV


1,914 posted on 08/16/2008 9:34:35 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Isn't there another one scheduled soon? ... Warren mat address some of his other favors he can do for Barack besides give him a false patina of christianity.
1,915 posted on 08/16/2008 9:35:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Hunter..YES

Cantor would be great too...

But with Hunter we could have

Hunter/Cantor 2012, 2016

Then Cantor for the next 8

But i can dream cant I ??????????


1,916 posted on 08/16/2008 9:36:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ladycalif

1,917 posted on 08/16/2008 9:36:34 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m wid ya on that one!


1,918 posted on 08/16/2008 9:36:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: free_life

I’m with you - people on this forum can truly love to hate. Very sad.


1,919 posted on 08/16/2008 9:37:05 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (~~ Visualize whirled peas ~~)
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To: Ladycalif

Jow Loya, Monica’s Dad ????

How are they all doing ???


1,920 posted on 08/16/2008 9:37:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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