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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks Nana. I needed the kisses and hugs and yep, I can feel the luuuuv!


1,541 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:01 PM PDT by houeto ("Drill Here! Drill Now!")
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To: MOgirl

Ha. yeah that was a good one.


1,542 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: AliVeritas

1,543 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:17 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: STARWISE

Oh you WERE asked, SW, and I’m happy to have your reply.


1,544 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:21 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: mnehrling

Thanks for the link in your post #1452! Hope everyone takes the time to watch it! Short but sure a great one! :)


1,545 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:31 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: flyfree

Ann Lewis: also in charge of bimbo eruptions for the Clintons. I guess that part of her resume’ did not make it on to Wikipedia.


1,546 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:59 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: Rightly Biased

I don’t know how to post an article however I can say for certain that Rick Warren supports the Syrians as well as the So called Palestinians.
Freep Article likely 2 years old or so.
My M in L left his church after I sent it to her.


1,547 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:09 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: seekthetruth

Come on, he has the black vote sewn up remember?

They wouldn’t even blink about it.

Sad... I remember when they had common sense and looked at how a man treated his family and who they dealt with.


1,548 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:29 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: AliVeritas

My bad :)


1,549 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:32 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Bishop Harry Jackson!! On Cspan....ripping it up! Not afraid to speak the truth!


1,550 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:41 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: HokieMom

Kay Warren, left, wife of pastor Rick Warren,


1,551 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:18 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: library user

It could also be that he hates him because Thomas is a conservative justice on the Supreme Court. He knows that Thomas will not rule on the side of Choice. And in his mind, if Obama was president, such a ruling would be seen as Thomas facing the first black president and telling him “NO”. Having risen to the Oval Office, Obama will believe that he has all of black America sitting in the palm of his hand... all except for maybe that man on the Supreme Court.

He would never want to see Thomas as his equal.

A black conservative justice on the Supreme Court trumps a black liberal man in the Oval Office... because Thomas is not just a black man. He represents more than that.


1,552 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: AliVeritas
You may not like Keyes wacky style, but he’s orthodox for sure.

It's not that I don't like him. He's a perfectly fine pundit. He's just not a good candidate.
1,553 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:23 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: Earthdweller

I couldn’t believe this is Cspan.


1,554 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:49 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: del4hope

Yes, the media is spittling their sycophancy for the marxist candidate and some on FOX are telliung the story of the event. McCain proved why he is the candidate whom we need in the WH instead of the Marxist Obama mama.


1,555 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: flaglady47

Ditto!


1,556 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:08 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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Hmmm.... Why do I turn the channel when Huckabee speaks?


1,557 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:12 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: WalterSkinner

Right now girlfriend is screaming..

“you **** I could have done sooooooo much better”

We wont see Hillary till she needs to be seen at the convention

(SHHHHHHHH dont tell anyone but she pulled her hair out...

the wig will be delivered next week..)

ROFLMBO


1,558 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: XR7

Oh. My. Goodness.

John McCain ate his Wheaties this morning! I may not have to bathe in Lysol after voting this year after all.

That was Game. Set. Match.

And if McCain picks a strong pro-life conservative running mate? GIDDY-UP!


1,559 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:42 PM PDT by Shelayne (Tagline on recess--just like Congress.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

(shakes head)

Don’t they get it? These are things you think about BEFORE having sex. That’s why they should have some self-esteem and know they’re worth waiting for.


1,560 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:47 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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