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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Tennessee Nana

I remember him saying something about wide spread international approval bieng important prior to stopping something like genocide.

I think he did say that we don’t necessarily need UN approval though.


1,201 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:02 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Has McCain ever been better?

I submit that the answer is no.


1,202 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:05 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: cpanter

it will be ignored..


1,203 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:05 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: pandemoniumreigns

The American people won’t be able to figure out who “won” such exchanges: they have to be led around by the hand by the national media to understand.


1,204 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: hole_n_one
No amount of make-up will cover all of the blows to Obama tonight.


1,205 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:27 PM PDT by library user
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To: mewzilla
That's not my only choice :)

Then you better change your tagline. ;o)

1,206 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:30 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: NOBAMA in 08

“Not a TKO! a Bloody COMA Knockout! Period! YAA HOO!”

I agree with your sentiment 100%. The only reason that I put TKO instead of KO is on a technical boxing point. It is effectively exactly how you described it.


1,207 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:34 PM PDT by TakeChargeBob
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To: cpanter

McCain shows this his understanidng of the reimergence of the russian empire. Reagen emerges and cheers from beyond!


1,208 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:46 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: Califreak

Bookmark for later


1,209 posted on 08/16/2008 6:47:48 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: Son House

Obama wasnt so knowledgable on Georgia...

John has done his homework


1,210 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Petronski
Hey you!

McCain did very well tonight.

1,211 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:01 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: McGruff

I could never have chosen Obama. As a Duncan gal, I did consider not voting for Pres., or writing in Duncan Hunter.

I’m very glad I was able to see this tonight.

While McCain boasts many faults including his amnesty position....the uh...uh....uhhh...aaahh....alternative is Obama.


1,212 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:06 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Petronski

Will he get the adoption question?? Living international adoption is much different than merely throwing someone else’s money at it.


1,213 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:09 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: Theodore R.

1,214 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:17 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: FlashBack

I don’t buy global warming, but I don’t think there is anything mutually exclusive about both pursuing oil, nuclear etc. while still trying to pursue cleaner energy and alternative sources that will get us off energy from other countries.


1,215 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: All
Saying Georgia is a Christian country....great little country....Russia is agressors.....territorial integrity of Georgia.....McCain has been there, knows the great people.....they are suffering terribly....other nations' heads flew to Georgia in show of solidarity....it's about oil.....keep Georgia in our prayers....Russia's aggression not acceptabl.

McCain scores a perfect 10. Blackbarry scratched.

Leni

1,216 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:32 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home in Nov & Vote for Obama-ization, More Regulation, Taxation, Litigation and Ginsburgization)
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To: Islander7

LOL!


1,217 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:54 PM PDT by backspace (It took me a week to come up with this tag line - please don't laugh at it.)
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To: SE Mom

McCain speaks of integrity, freedom, doesn’t balk on issues and doesn’t stutter for the politically Correct words, he’s 72 and a world of learned knowledge, and just may have the wisdom to lead the great nation on earth. I just can’t trust the waffle man; he stutters worse the P-p-p-p-pork-k-k-kyyy p-p-p-p-pig!


1,218 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:58 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: tsmith130; mewzilla

Heh heh. Good point. :)


1,219 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:59 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: library user

Is this the gal who gave him the purple lips???


1,220 posted on 08/16/2008 6:49:01 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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