The two authors of the article in the NEJM, both proponents of organ donation, argue that "as an ethical requirement for organ donation, the dead donor rule has required unnecessary and unsupportable revisions of the definition of death." The mainstream media will BURY this news.
1 posted on
08/15/2008 5:32:34 AM PDT by
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2 posted on
08/15/2008 5:33:00 AM PDT by
wagglebee
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3 posted on
08/15/2008 5:33:28 AM PDT by
wagglebee
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4 posted on
08/15/2008 5:34:40 AM PDT by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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5 posted on
08/15/2008 5:35:16 AM PDT by
Red Badger
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To: wagglebee
Monty Python was WAY ahead of the curve on this one. They had a “Live Organ Donor Sketch” in the early 1970s...
“We’re here for your Liver”
“WHAT?”
“Your liver! You DID sign this organ doner card, didn’t you?”
etc. etc.
6 posted on
08/15/2008 5:38:40 AM PDT by
WayneS
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To: wagglebee
It is always interesting when science fiction become science fact.
Larry Niven wrote an entire series of SF novels about this.
7 posted on
08/15/2008 5:42:06 AM PDT by
fireforeffect
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To: wagglebee
I have refused to be an organ donor, knowing that there are philosophers around who constantly redefine what it means to be a person, and how they don’t think disabled and comatose human beings are sentient, worthy of protection, etc.
These people teach hospital personnel who are apparently putting the lessons into practice.
If it were otherwise, I would be an organ donor, and I know others who feel the same way.
If we could trust the hospital staff to make sure people were really dead before they sliced them open, we might have alot more available organs.
10 posted on
08/15/2008 5:45:58 AM PDT by
fetal heart beats by 21st day
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To: wagglebee
I signed my organ donor card, and knowing that what is in this article may indeed be true, I will still remain a donor. I think it would be an extremely small number of cases where brain death occurs and yet somehow the patient would later regain consciousness.
Where this info is important is in cases where they want to take people off life support citing statistics saying they will never recover...that is different than being an informed organ donor.
11 posted on
08/15/2008 5:46:32 AM PDT by
Bobalu
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To: wagglebee
He's only mostly dead. /MiracleMax
14 posted on
08/15/2008 5:51:23 AM PDT by
NonValueAdded
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To: wagglebee
(The msm will bury this news)
The msm is brain dead.
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20 posted on
08/15/2008 6:00:55 AM PDT by
PGalt
To: wagglebee
Now that a prominent medical journal has come out and stated that brain death and cardiac death are invalid criteria for true death, some are hoping.... Au contraire,
- So a "prominent medical journal" has printed a submitted article that stated "brain death and cardiac death are invalid criteria for true death". With all due respect bit...so what? This act of publication doesn't mean the NEJM agrees/supports/endorses of that particular. While individual members of the editorial board may or may not agree with the article, the medical journal itself does not. NEJM prints a lot of articles from a lot of doctors. That's its business. This article was one of them, nothing more and nothing less.IOW, this article is the printed words of a writer expressing an opinion or conjecture.
- Question: If "...brain death and cardiac death are invalid criteria for true death" than pray tell what is?
21 posted on
08/15/2008 6:11:14 AM PDT by
yankeedame
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To: wagglebee
This brought me thoughts of the film Awake, part of which involved an aware patient on an operating table undergoing surgery. Quite a good film.
To: wagglebee
I heard it on ABC and CNN. So much for burying the news.
26 posted on
08/15/2008 6:37:29 AM PDT by
theDentist
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32 posted on
08/15/2008 6:48:33 AM PDT by
Dante3
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What I find interesting is the number of doctors I know who refuse to be organ donors. What do they know/understand that the rest of us don’t?
33 posted on
08/15/2008 6:57:39 AM PDT by
RayBob
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Holy mackeral. This is incredible.
37 posted on
08/15/2008 7:24:18 AM PDT by
trisham
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To: wagglebee
So if cardiac death is not true death, and if brain death is not true death, what IS true death? Putrefaction?
I’m serious. Anybody here who can enlighten me in layman’s terms?
39 posted on
08/15/2008 7:40:23 AM PDT by
Jedidah
To: wagglebee
The embryonic stem cell “researchers” “harvest” ALL the organs of human persons while their owners are most certainly alive. (And John McCain supports it.)
No moral difference between that and taking a living, healthy adult, strapping them to a table, and cutting out their organs for the “benefit” of someone else.
The only practical difference is that the adult might be able to fight back.
41 posted on
08/15/2008 8:04:43 AM PDT by
EternalVigilance
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43 posted on
08/15/2008 8:09:40 AM PDT by
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