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'Nazi' Atrocities Shock in Georgia - Civilians 'Slain & Sent to Camps'
nypost.com ^ | August 14, 2008 | CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA in Gori, Georgia, and CHUCK BENNETT in NY

Posted on 08/14/2008 10:01:27 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Russian troops are indiscriminately murdering civilians and interning them in concentration camps, the embattled Georgian president charged yesterday, as he begged the West not to "appease" Moscow as it did with Nazi Germany.

The startling accusations came as Russian troops blatantly violated a cease-fire by sending an armored convoy through the strategic city of Gori.

The invaders first poured into Georgia five days ago - ostensibly in defense of a pro-Moscow breakaway region, South Ossetia. "What they are doing is exactly what Stalin did to Finland, what they've done to Afghanistan, what in the Second World War Germany was doing to Poland and to other European countries," Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said.

Saakashvili, a US-educated lawyer who once practiced law in New York, described the situation in Georgia as the rape of his country.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: abkhazia; atrocities; banglist; ceasefire; communism; georgia; gulags; ossetia; redarmy; reeducationcamps; russia; russiantroops; southossetia; sovietmilitary; sovietunion; triptosiberia
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Russian 58th Army is the one rolling through South Ossetia and Gori. They have been given the lovely knickname, “The Butchers of Grozny”.


21 posted on 08/14/2008 10:59:06 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The startling accusations came as Russian troops blatantly violated a cease-fire by sending an armored convoy through the strategic city of Gori. "What they are doing is exactly what Stalin did to Finland . . . Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said.

Perhaps I could get more worked up about this if the city of Gori wasn't STILL promoting Stalin worship, with a huge statue of him and his old home as a key tourist attraction.

Honestly, I feel awful about innocent civilians caught in the middle of all this, but I suspect Putin and Saakashvili are pretty much two peas in a pod.

22 posted on 08/14/2008 11:00:04 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: archy
Perhaps the memory of Simo Hayha is still fresh in the mind of the Russians.

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23 posted on 08/14/2008 11:01:52 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The B2’s should be taking out the Russian convoys, and Special Forces should be on the ground harrassing troops and vital items, already if they aren’t already, if these allegations are true.

I know we aren’t in a position for a full frontal war with Russia, but that doesn’t mean we sit by and do nothing if this is going on.


24 posted on 08/14/2008 11:06:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Perhaps I could get more worked up about this if the city of Gori wasn't STILL promoting Stalin worship, with a huge statue of him and his old home as a key tourist attraction.

Well, yes, of course, a statue always merits looting, pillaging, burning and raping. /sarc

25 posted on 08/14/2008 11:07:33 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad

Russian has historically not been a great respecter of the rights of conquered people. And at this point that’s essentially what the Georgians in occupied territory are.

The Russians will either be made to suffer for this aggression or this attack will be just a prelude for greater atrocities to come.

Time to ramp up for Cold War II.


26 posted on 08/14/2008 11:10:04 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Dang it. Saakashvili is not a communist for goodness sake. In Russia they still have Lenin/Communist era statues at every corner. Gori has a Stalin museum and statue for historic/tourists reason. No real Georgian is swooning for Stalin, who after all was the leading Bolshevik that had Free Georgia annexed by the Bolshevik armies in 1921.


27 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:35 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF; SolidWood

I agree, that looks like a re-enactor photo. Check out the Stg-45 (Sturmgewehr) - though that might actually be a non-functional copy of the granddaddy of all assault rifles.


28 posted on 08/14/2008 11:26:17 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Looks like he is holding a StG-44 (aka MP-44). A good piece to collect from World War II.
29 posted on 08/14/2008 11:47:49 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Russian has historically not been a great respecter of the rights of conquered people. And at this point that’s essentially what the Georgians in occupied territory are.

I've heard stories they raped German women in occupied territories during and after World War II. There is no excuse for that.
30 posted on 08/14/2008 11:49:59 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Nowhere Man

They raped Romania women as well. My grand mother pretended to have a horrible disease to keep the Russians from raping her. She marked up her face with boils and lesions and pretended to be be sickly.


31 posted on 08/14/2008 12:05:50 PM PDT by Tramonto (Regime change in Russia)
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To: Tzimisce

I don’t know if I believe that the Russians are setting up death camps./
Have you ever read any of the Gulag Archipellago? There has never been a time when the Russians have not operated death camps. It would be extraordinary to believe that they have not enslaved Georgians.


32 posted on 08/14/2008 12:06:56 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Russian has historically not been a great respecter of the rights of conquered people. And at this point that’s essentially what the Georgians in occupied territory are.

I know, but when you think of how we put our guys through hell for even bogus accusations of abuse of civilians, it's infuriating -- especially when there are so many people out there that are willing to buy excuses for these excuses for these monsters -- such as a damn statue or a wild exaggeration of atrocities by Georgia in SO.

33 posted on 08/14/2008 12:13:13 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Amos the Prophet

And my guess is that almost all of those taken to the camps will never be seen again. This is part of the terror tactic.

Note that a lot of our guys who were “liberated” by the Red Army from Nazi POW camps in WWII have still not come home.

The same is true of Korean War POWs.

The same is true of aerial recon operators who are known to have survived being shot down during the Cold War.

The same is true of Viet Nam POWs.

We’re just not supposed to talk about them because it could harm international relations.


34 posted on 08/14/2008 12:33:37 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We didn’t appease Nazi Germany, at least that I can remember from reading about WWII. We went in and kicked their collective butts.


35 posted on 08/14/2008 1:18:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: SolidWood; InABunkerUnderSF

Yeah, that guy looks like a reenactor to me too.


36 posted on 08/14/2008 1:30:43 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov mocked Georgia as "a special project of the United States." The United States had been training the Georgian military, and

Why bother?

NATO is an old tiger with two teeth remaining in his mouth; the US and the UK and no will left to leave his lair.

37 posted on 08/14/2008 2:04:18 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Travis McGee; Lurker; hiredhand; NFHale; Gilbo_3; archy
Give me 10,000 men like this and 30 days......This man is set on / determined to put someone in the hurt locker !


38 posted on 08/14/2008 3:36:47 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Sovi...Er Russians are sending the breakaway Georgians to reeducation camps.


39 posted on 08/14/2008 3:39:02 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Squantos

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before, but I love your tagline. :)


40 posted on 08/14/2008 3:39:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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