Posted on 08/11/2008 12:17:44 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
WARSAW (AFP)--The presidents of five ex-communist countries will travel to Georgia to back Georgia in its war with Russia, a senior aide to Poland's President Lech Kaczynski told AFP Monday.
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Eastern europeans are the LAST true freedom fighters with USA in the “free world” since they have know communism!
That’s why it’s so important to help them
BUSH and McCAIN have another music to play...I hope so
I concur with you that Powell was a lightweight, but Condi actually has bigger balls than he. The question is: How much bigger? Condi does not trust the Russian leadership, neither in the 1980s nor today. You may very well be right that Condi will prove to be a wimp. I say, give her a chance. If she folds like a paper towel than I will be the first to say you were right.
How does the military of these 5 nations combined stack up against Russia’s military?
Sometime you never grasp the damage till much later....as with Kosovo, the Serbs, the Muslims, the whole ball of wax in that area. The State Department was 108 degrees wrong in assessing that one.
Of course, GW could send the man from Georgia, Jimmuh Cahtah, to Georgia....and something tells me that idiocy not beyond the realm of possibility.
Leni
I agree that we should at least use some of our aircraft against Russian aircraft in Georgia.
May God bless them in their mission. They know what’s at stake.
Northern Yankee, I don’t know if you’ve been following what’s been happening between Georgia and Russia, but I thought I’d ping you since I know you are a person of faith. This situation, these leaders, could use some prayers from the faithful.
Thank you!
We think the same way. You do not discourage Russia by backing down & talking vigorously!
New Europe has found the gonads that the Americans have lost for good. Hail Poland!
Weakness at that juncture led to more proxy wars until the so-called dissolution of the USSR in 1989.
Yes... I have been following what's been going on here and it worries me greatly.
I saw some video of the bombing a few days ago and I am fearful for this breakaway country.
Thanks for your ping and thoughts.
What do you think?
I will continue to pray for those people over there.
Yes, it is a good thing to see the former slaves of the USSR assert themselves in this way. But I can’t agree that we have lost our stones “for good†That is the mistaken impression every would be tough guy has made throughout out our history. In the 30’s it was Hitler and Tojo, in the 60’s the communists. Always the same “Americans are too soft, too decadent, to rich”, whatever........like the old saying, someday we will be too soft to fight, but that day is not this day.
lol! I had never read this explained as succinctly as you have done. Makes absolute perfect sense. Thank you, Publius!
The following came out yesterday on Poland.pl (http://poland.pl/news/article,Poland_concerned_over_Georgia,id,341438.htm):
Poland concerned over Georgia
The armed clash between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia has alarmed Polish authorities and public opinion alike. Besides declarations of sympathy and solidarity with Georgia, Poland and its people are undertaking concrete steps to defuse the conflict and render assistance to the victims of the aggression.
Following a series of wide consultations with government and foreign partners over the weekend Polish president Lech Kaczynski has sent a special envoy to Tbilisi to present a detailed peace plan he has discussed with his Lithuanian and Ukrainian opposite numbers. Just before departure for the Georgian capital Piotr Kownacki, who is the deputy head of the Presidential Chancellary, told reporters that the primary intention of this international initiative is bringing true peacekeeping forces into Georgia: ‘It’s grotesque and ironic in the present situation that it is the Russian forces which are the peacekeepers there. In the face of Russian aggression against Georgia this simply cannot be continued. The plan envisages international presence under European Union auspices.’
While in Tbilisi, the Polish envoy is to meet with Georgian president Saakashvili and that country’s foreign minister and possibly with the French head of diplomacy who has a similar mission both in Tbilisi and Moscow.
Mariusz Handzlik, another official of the Presidential Chancellary in Warsaw, added that the presidents of Poland and other Baltic states have not excluded visiting Georgia should such need arise from the nearest developments.
Meanwhile, a group of 96 people have been evacuated from conflict threatened Tbilisi by bus to Erevan in neighboring Armenia and then transported on board a Polish government plane. Landing in Warsaw early Monday morning, they told reporters at the airport: ‘Each person received an SMS with the time and place of evacuation... I have a French passport, so I went to the French embassy. They told me to come the next day... Now I’m calm, I’m home... I’m here, but my family is still there.’
The group comprised mostly Poles, but it also included 8 Czechs and two other nationals. They all praised the exemplary manner in which Polish consular services in Tbilisi handled the situation: ‘The Polish embassy did a really fine job. It extended help not only to Polish citizens, but to all who asked for assistance regardless whether they were Czech, French, German or other European nationals.’
The Polish government plane is departing on two more evacuation missions to the region still on Monday.
Polish Red Cross (PCK) representatives were waiting for the evacuees from Georgia ready to help the tormented people, Marcin Rudnicki told our Radio Information Agency reporter: ‘The Red Cross in Poland has considerable experience in such actions, to recall the evacuation of Polish citizens from Lebanon two years ago. We have pledged all necessary medical and psychological assistance fro those returning from Georgia. We are ready to work with state administration services as well as the interior and foreign ministries in this operation.’
The Polish Humanitarian Organization (PAH) was also quick to react. Its leader Janina Ochojska says the famous Polish NGO with 7 years of experience in Chechnya will be targetting - on the spot - all those who need help in South Ossetia: ‘We are preparing to assist Georgian citizens and that means Georgians and Ossetians, because we’re thinking about both sides of the conflict. I’m still hoping for a stop to the war actions so that the help needed will be limited to organizing their return home and clearing the destruction. I wish for that very much. We’ll be following the developments there.’
Not only organizations in Poland have been responding to the tragedy of the military conflict in Georgia. Individual gestures of sympathy for the Georgian cause have been manifested by Poles in front of the Embassy of the Republic of Georgia in Warsaw. Participants of a rally have written a letter of support and handed it to the diplomatic officials: ‘We want to encourage Georgians not to surrender. The world shares their grief. Even if not all politicians have voiced support, or have given too little of it, we are strongly with the Georgian people.’
In response to the letter of support the Georgian embassy in Warsaw has stated that the Russian attack is an attempt at punishing the country for its western oriented and pro-Atlantic aspirations.
“most likely you are quite right, but then that begs the question why Russia is risking as much as they are already.
What’s the endgame?”
Control of energy resources and transportation.
“...Perhaps these presidents actually paid attention during their 20th century history classes...”
Pay attention??? They LIVED it.
They know what the A**hole Reds are capable of. They’ll come in there with their “For Immediate Seizure and Execution lists”, their “re-education facilities”, their “psychiatric hospitals” for dissidents and resisters, etc., - just like they do everywhere else.
Another mountain of corpses, another socialist Utopia...
Let’s hope all those nice little “democratic equalizer” AK47s and AK74s that never made it home to Mother Russia are now tucked away in hidey-hole caches throughout the Former Soviet Republics, owned and hidden by Patriots who are determined NOT to become Current Soviet republics...Patriots who can’t WAIT to send some of their carefully stored ammo back to Mother Russia...
My prayers go out to them...commie sh*theads never learn...they just keep trying...and people keep dying as a result.
Our leaders remember as well -- they simply choose to forget.
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