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Andrew Sullivan: The doubts starting to rein back Obama
The Sunday Times ^ | August 10, 2008 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 08/10/2008 9:33:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it so close? That’s been the chatter after these past two weeks in the three-month run of the Obama-McCain smackdown. The Obamaphiles are nervous that their man has stalled in the polls after what, objectively, was a successful trip overseas. The McCainites, terrified of a Democratic wave, are taking solace in the failure of Barack Obama to break away. The straggling Clintonites are busy preparing their told-you-sos.

There are any number of theories offered for the tightness. One is that Obama is too temperamentally aloof for most Americans. According to the columnist Maureen Dowd, he is the Mr Darcy of American politics, too proud, while Americans are still a little too prejudiced. Or maybe Obama is too popular with Germans for his own domestic good (he’s lucky he didn’t hold a rally on the Champs Elysées). Or is his orthodox liberalism in many areas seeping through, while America remains a centre-right country? Others posit that the only halfway normal Americans who focus on the campaign in early August are the elderly, and they are demographically more in tune with John McCain.

Who knows for sure? My view is that McCain was always the most appealing Republican in the current atmosphere and Obama is, for many people, a less well-known and riskier bet. But two factors are undervalued. The first is Iraq. It’s easily forgotten but Obama’s candidacy would never have gained the slightest traction were it not for his opposition to the war from the start. It’s what distinguished him from Hillary Clinton and, in the midst of apparent chaos and drift in Mesopotamia, his campaign gave voice to those who simply wanted to cut American losses and move on.

However, there’s a difference between Iraq in mid2006 and Iraq in mid2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; andrewsullivan; democrats; doubts; election; electionpresident; elections; iraq; issues; mccain; obama; unfit; wot
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1 posted on 08/10/2008 9:33:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sullivan can’t imagine why a crack-smoking homosexual like Obama wouldn’t be cruising to a landslide victory.


2 posted on 08/10/2008 9:39:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

But but but...

he’s clean and articulate!


3 posted on 08/10/2008 9:39:46 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Others posit that the only halfway normal Americans who focus on the campaign in early August are the elderly, and they are demographically more in tune with John McCain.

Sorry, but the elderly that I know are all in the Obama camp. They love him because they think he's going to give them freebies. This was, after all, the generation that raised the boomers and grew up under Roosevelt, and to them, there's nothing better than government intervention.

4 posted on 08/10/2008 9:40:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: Lancey Howard
"Sullivan can’t imagine why a crack-smoking homosexual like Obama wouldn’t be cruising to a landslide victory."

ROTFLMAO!!

5 posted on 08/10/2008 9:41:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to the columnist Maureen Dowd, he is the Mr Darcy of American politics,

Not really. Darcy was too reticent to mention his good deeds.

Obama pretends to have accomplished more than he really has.

7 posted on 08/10/2008 9:44:19 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama's manner of speaking is very self-reVerential.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, McCain should be way out in front.


8 posted on 08/10/2008 9:45:26 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could not get all the way through this article


9 posted on 08/10/2008 9:47:53 AM PDT by woofie
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To: ConservativeDude

If Sullivan wrote a puff piece on egobama, I’d suggest the two should star in a movie called barackback mountain.


10 posted on 08/10/2008 9:48:08 AM PDT by Vision Thing (barackback mountain)
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To: livius

You obviously don’t know many of us. Despite what you children thing, we ARE NOT an entire generation of deadbeats.


11 posted on 08/10/2008 9:49:06 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 ( At almost 85 YO -- Achieving victim status, one day at a time.)
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To: syriacus

Maureen Dowd and I cannot even agree on Mr Darcy’s attributes!


12 posted on 08/10/2008 9:50:14 AM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: ovrtaxt
But but but... he’s clean and articulate!

The first black candidate ever to be that way, according to Joe Biden.

13 posted on 08/10/2008 9:56:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Black? Wha...? Oh, I didnt’ notice.

By the way, did you know John Kerry was in VietNam?


14 posted on 08/10/2008 9:58:00 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: livius

I think most of those elderly are finally dying off. The current generation of “elderly” is probably more likely from the Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson years.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 9:58:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: livius
Others posit that the only halfway normal Americans who focus on the campaign in early August are the elderly, and they are demographically more in tune with John McCain.

Sorry, but the elderly that I know are all in the Obama camp. They love him because they think he's going to give them freebies. This was, after all, the generation that raised the boomers and grew up under Roosevelt, and to them, there's nothing better than government intervention.

Well, I live in Central Florida, often called God's Waiting Room, and I'm a senior, and most of my friends and neighbors are for McCain. That's because most of us crafted a retirement lifestyle not based upon Roosevelt, but rather on conservative principles, since the government has never given us much, but rather has taken a lot.

The liberal leanings of Clinton and Obama are a put off to a generation that has worked hard all their lives and now want to live their lives out in contentment.

16 posted on 08/10/2008 10:00:04 AM PDT by FLCowboy, (Ironically, Gore notes that he has run for president twice and says: "I know what it takes to win.?)
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To: livius

I’m 69 - - you don’t know what you’re talking about - - haven’t got a clue.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 10:09:15 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Lancey Howard
I think most of those elderly are finally dying off. The current generation of “elderly” is probably more likely from the Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson years

Well, my very first vote was for Eisenhower - my last one for our POTUS...

that said, I don't know's I care for your "those elderly are FINALLY dying off."

Sounds like some kind of delayed duty...

And my turn must be coming up?

Remember, barring unforeseen circumstances, you too will, one day be lucky to be, 'elderly'

18 posted on 08/10/2008 10:09:15 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hello, Maureeen!!

How about this: he is TOO DAMN LIBERAL.


19 posted on 08/10/2008 10:16:48 AM PDT by Ben Reyes (Look, it's the Breck Girl Doing the One-hand Obama Salute!)
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To: maine-iac7

LOL, sorry to be unclear. My post definitely didn’t come out right. I was referring to the FDR welfare crowd. My first vote was for Nixon, so I’m no spring chicken, believe me.

I hope you live to be a hundred.

FRegards,
LH


20 posted on 08/10/2008 10:23:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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