Some nice Canada Bashing for your Sunday morning enjoyment.
Posted on 08/01/2008 7:15:03 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
Didja year about this one? Some maniac with a huge knife beheaded a man on a Greyhound bus in Canada. If you want a description of what happened, you can click here.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/global-video/index.html?video=2805319
When the attack occurred the other passengers abandoned ship. Hard to blame them. Who wants to rush this maniac with a knife when everyone can get away? I do have a question though. What if someone – just one person on that bus – had a concealed carry permit and was carrying a gun. How would things have been different?
There's a problem though. This is Canada. No guns. No carry permits. No way to save this victim.
Oh well.
Our murder rate is in the neighborhood of the rates found in major Canadian cities.
BTW, the largest municipality in the Washington DC SMSA is Fairfax County, so any statistics relevant to DC that you might use to show the flavor of the place ought to use Fairfax County as the base. DC is a small enclave in the SMSA and is not representative.
So, what makes Fairfax different than DC? Well, for one, it has the highest median family income in the entire country ~ which makes it possible for us to pay for lots and lots of guns. We also have a rather high percentage of foreign born people, many of them from Afghanistan ~ they learn about guns from childhood in that place. Guess everybody else is a veteran of an army somewhere, even guerrilla movements.
If ever there was a place that might be affected by guns leaping off the tabletop and killing people, this is it.
I think the big difference between here and places where they are killing each other is the level of armaments you might expect to face if you get out of hand. Best keep your pistols in your holsters around here.
Exactly! As I said, after my initial thought, I realized the crime didn’t fit.
Some are wondering if he is a mental illness patient who was dumped on a Greyhound as a one-way ticket to ship him somewhere else. I guess we’ll find out more info soon enough.
(RIP to the poor young victim. What a horrible tragedy.)
That was a reference to the victim.
The degradation of the media, I'm afraid.
Thanks.
Satan on the loose. NO other earthly way to explain the depths of this horror.
Prayers for the family of the young man...although they will need even more than that I fear.
A gun would have made no difference. I’ve seen several the interviews with passengers. The guy sitting in the seat in front of the victim, who yelled for everyone to get off the bus, said that the victim had been stabbed 50 to 60 times (and had his throat slashed) by the time he realized what was going on.
Yesterday, 4 students were killed by a gunman in Michigan. The killer picked them off, one by one. Earlier this week, two churchgoers were killed in Tennessee. Both states allow concealed weapons. So, why aren’t those people alive?
No, second degree murder just means there was no premeditated intent. It carries the same penalty as first degree murder in Canada.
I have no doubt Li is a paranoid schizophrenic. I believe he will be found unfit to stand trial, and will be committed to a mental institution until death.
Tell it to them.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/afghanistan/casualties/list.html
Or their parents.
They have the death penalty in the great white socialist north??
It's very difficult to believe that lack of access to guns by the population in Canada plays no part in their lower murder rate.
Regarding your point that the figre I posted earlier for DC does not take the metro area into account, here's a listing of the murder rates for 300 major US metro areas.
http://www.crimetrends.com/id5.html
The DC area (I live in the District, BTW), still comes in at 7.4 murders per 100,000, compared to Toronto's 2/100K.
There isn't all that much different between the two areas- they are both around the same size, both areas have significant minority populations etc. So, what accounts for the differences in murder rates?
Fairfax County is not the whole area, just the largest jurisdiction in the area.
We have guns coming out the wazoo here, and our gun death rate is right down there with Toronto!
Montgomery county, PG county, DC, Howard and Charles Counties have HIGHER gun death rates than we do and they have extensive firearm restrictions.
That's why I am suggesting the factor driving the gun death rate, or the murder rate in general, is not the availability of guns.
We got'em; DC doesn't. Who has the lower rate?
Toronto doesn't have 'em; we have 'em. Our rate is usually right close to theirs. Of Toronto armed all of its citizens their gun death rate would probably not change at all. Then they'd be like Fairfax County.
Else, they'd be Republicans.
The one I remember, maybe you are thinking about the same one, was where a man in his 70’s, former military, was on a bus in South America, when a man or men tried to pull some stunt—probably robbery—on the bus. The American in his 70’s killed the man with his bare hands—broke his neck. I had compiled a list of these former military men that had stepped up—I’ll try to find it.
Well, I couldn’t find the list I thought I had compiled about
former military men/Marines stepping up, but I did find the one I was thinking about that happened in South America. Maybe a different story than the one you are talking about:
US Tourist Kills Mugger With Bare Hands
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1897121/posts
I just wish someone/several someones had been on that bus with some kind of training or a weapon to come to Tim McLean’s aid. Even if it had been too late for the victim, at least it would have been a slight ray of light in this gruesome story and the poor guy’s body wouldn’t have been butchered up.
Canada Ping
I expected better from you, how could I have been so mistaken?
Some nice Canada Bashing for your Sunday morning enjoyment.
Well, I can tell you I won’t be heading to Winnipeg on a Greyhound anytime soon!
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