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Texas Set To Execute Gang Rapist/Murderer
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0731/p03s05-usju.html ^

Posted on 07/31/2008 6:59:34 PM PDT by instantgratification

The United States is fast approaching a showdown over its commitment to the rule of international law as Texas prepares to carry out the scheduled Aug. 5 execution of convicted killer and rapist Jose Medellin. On July 14, the International Court of Justice at The Hague ordered the US government to "take all measures necessary" to prevent the execution of Mr. Medellin and four other Mexican nationals awaiting execution dates on death row in Texas. . . Medellin admitted involvement in the gang rape and murder of two girls. The girls, ages 14 and 16, took a shortcut home through the woods, where they were spotted by members of a street gang. Medellin and other gang members chased the girls, raped them, and then killed them to prevent them from reporting the crime. . . A measure was introduced in Congress, but there has been no effort to pass the bill, or even debate it. Analysts say the issue is radioactive in an election year.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; deathpenalty; icj; medellin; worldcourt
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To: instantgratification
The problem is that the US wants to ensure its citizens have consular access when it is abroad, so from that perspective, the World Court is needed. I think if this were not a big election year, Congress may have intervened.

What an idiot statement. We don't deserve any special treatment abroad. If we break their laws then we pay the price of doing so. Especially if we rape and kill teenage girls in the process. If congress intervenes on this in any year they will be swamped with phone calls, emails and every other means of communication. Kill the murdering bastards is my cry and kill them soon. F*** the world court, they have no standing in our country and in country that lets them dictate what they can do deserves the tyranny they get as a result.

21 posted on 07/31/2008 7:35:07 PM PDT by calex59
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To: instantgratification

I suggest a compromise. String him up, then cryogenically freeze the body and send it to the Hague. They can store it and revive him when technology permits.

Come to think of it, why not do that will all convicted killers in lieu of appeals. When all appeals are exhausted, the body could be thawed.


22 posted on 07/31/2008 7:42:41 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: instantgratification

GRRRRRRRREAT news!


23 posted on 07/31/2008 7:43:55 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: instantgratification
"Americans who are detained abroad may well lose the critical protection of ensured access to United States consular officers," wrote Lucy Reed, president of the American Society of International Law (ASIL), in a recent letter to leaders in Congress.

Somewhere I have a jpeg of the USS Washington, with the slogan, "90,000 tons of diplomacy; wherever, whenever."

Relying on grownups wearing striped pants to protect Americans is a losing proposition.

24 posted on 07/31/2008 7:44:43 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Farmer Dean

that is great but still to good for him. tree-chain-blowtorch....slowly until done works for me.


25 posted on 07/31/2008 7:45:59 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: instantgratification

May God have mercy on his soul, after the State of Texas sets it free from its mortal husk.

Amen.


26 posted on 07/31/2008 7:50:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Kudzu: A successful government program!)
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To: All
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!! (killer)

Burn in hell. No pitty for you montster!

27 posted on 07/31/2008 7:50:23 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck?.. Naah :))
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Wasnt this the same guy the Bush Admin supported in preventing his execution?

There is nothing more anti-American than allowing the World Court (a favorite of Liberals and Liberal Free Trade Globalists) to involve itself in the American system.

I am tired of those people and institutions who value the rights of criminal illegal aliens over the rights of American citizen crime victims. If Mexico doesnt like the fact that their reprobates get executed in the USA...then take your damn people back.


28 posted on 07/31/2008 7:58:49 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (McBama....Over 300 Million Screwed)
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To: instantgratification

The problem is that the US wants to ensure its citizens have consular access when it is abroad.

BS! When arrested overseas, an american citizen will get a visit from the embassy security officer (if notified about the arrest), whom will explain that there is nothing they can do. The american citizen broke the local law and is at their mercy, but they will contact his/her family to send money and food.


29 posted on 07/31/2008 8:11:22 PM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: instantgratification

Put a pillow under his head and give him a comfortable, painless ride into Hell . . .

For the chilren.


30 posted on 07/31/2008 8:13:21 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: instantgratification

It figures that the child molesters in the Hague would try to save the life of this filthy scumbag. He should be strapped into a chair and cooked to a crisp, along with his accomplices.


31 posted on 07/31/2008 8:19:41 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: instantgratification
“Life” is not “life” in Texas.

When this case was tried, there was no life without parole in TX. The TX legislature enacted life without parole this last session.

32 posted on 07/31/2008 8:38:55 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: instantgratification

We don’t need arrogant European elitists telling us what to do. We have the Constitution, which is the supreme law of our land. Not The Hague.


33 posted on 07/31/2008 8:41:57 PM PDT by RepublicanProfessorette
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To: instantgratification
Has Ted Kennedy weighed in on this case yet?

Or Jorge Arbusto?

Or Juan "Amnesty" McCain?

(...and why isn't this labeled a hate crime by the DBM?)

(...and why aren't the feminists up in arms about this?)

NO cheers, unfortunately.

34 posted on 07/31/2008 9:06:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: instantgratification
The problem is that the US wants to ensure its citizens have consular access when it is abroad, so from that perspective, the World Court is needed. I think if this were not a big election year, Congress may have intervened. A big problem in a lot of these cases is Mexico always demands its nationals who commit crimes not face the death penalty. It doesn’t look at whether the accused got a fair trial. And, in this case, the gangbanger was only “nominally” Mexican - a Mexican citizen raised in the U.S. Mexico should not have taken this to the World Court. Lots of Americans and Canadians languish for years in Mexican prisons if they fail to buy their way out.

I am a little old fashioned on this account. I believe sovereign nations should make bilateral arrangements for these matters and not offload their sovereignty to a World Court that can issue "orders" to them.

If Mexico has a problem with US treatment of its citizens who break US law then it should come to the US and negotiate a fair and equitable bilateral treaty.

In that event, both countries are more inclined to keep their end of the deal in fear of similar treatment on the other side. As it is, one side can run to the World Court for a ruling when they themselves have little intention of reciprocating.
35 posted on 07/31/2008 9:10:07 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: instantgratification

I am in Mexico watching the national coverage of this on television. Mr. Medellin says everybody commits “errors” when they are young, and since he was 18 at the time of his “error” he should be forgiven. The interviewer asked him if he had decided on what his last meal would be. He did not want to answer the question, and then when asked about what his last words would be, he said he did not think about those things.

As for access by US citizens in foreign jails, that is not what is at stake here. Mr. Medellin did have access to the Mexican consulate, eventually, and was given a fair trial. May God have more mercy on him than he had for Miss Pena and the other young (16 and 14) year old girls.


36 posted on 07/31/2008 9:15:43 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: instantgratification

If he did it in the US/Texas then it falls under that jurisdiction.

When the illegal parents of American anchor babies live in HUD housing and eat on the taxpayers dimes, where is Mexico to protest that?


37 posted on 07/31/2008 9:26:06 PM PDT by wac3rd (Carter80/Obama08)
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To: instantgratification

I can see a lib on the SCOTUS putting this execution off in the name of international law.


38 posted on 07/31/2008 9:41:23 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: RepublicanProfessorette
"We don’t need arrogant European elitists telling us what to do. We have the Constitution, which is the supreme law of our land. Not The Hague."

You need to attend re-education camp..... the US Constitution is only the "supreme law of our land" insofar as it has been properly re-interpreted by Justices Ginsburg, Stevens, et al. Otherwise, look to the Hague, the UN, and the EU. /big sarcasm

39 posted on 07/31/2008 9:46:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Obambi goes to GERMANY to apologize for unwarranted (sic) aggression!)
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To: taxesareforever
I can see a lib on the SCOTUS putting this execution off in the name of international law.

SCOTUS washed their hands of him in 2006. They are *not* going to go there again...

the infowarrior

40 posted on 07/31/2008 10:43:37 PM PDT by infowarrior
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