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The blood of 20,000: the genocide charges Radovan Karadzic faces`(with video link)
Channel 4 News ^ | Wednesday, July 23, 2008 | Nick Paton Walsh

Posted on 07/23/2008 7:13:37 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

Radovan Karadzic is accused of the most heinous crimes against humanity, from the siege of Sarajevo to the Srebrenica massacre.

He is charged with having the blood of 20,000 lives on his hands and of bringing an entire country down by ethnic hatred.

Today relatives of the thousands of victims said they had been waiting for this moment of justice for 13 years.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; dhimmwit; genocide; karadzic; massacres; massmurders; serbia; warcrimes
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To: wideawake
As far as anybody can tell, Trnopolje was a refuge hostel of some sort and the only barbed wire anywhere close to it was to protect the little toolshed from the usual muslim thievery. Penny Marshall and her crew somehow got the key to the little enclosure, walked into it, called people over and rolled cameras producing the flagrant fiction that the people were inside the barbed wire and the camera crew on the outside.

Joeseph Goebbels would not have had the chutzvah to pull such a thing off, that would have been too big a lie even for Goebbels and Hitler.

Other than that, truth is not a defense in English libel suits.

21 posted on 07/23/2008 9:12:52 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wideawake

The world Marxist media AND Democrat President Clinton did say that the Serbs murdered 100,000 Muslim Albanians, proof :http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532010/posts

So where are the mass graves of this “genocide” of 100,000.Provide proof. Yes they found a few thousand dead in a war zone that has been raging for hundreds of years. that Is not mass graves nor any proof of SERBS perpetrating a genocide. Many of those dead were Serbian women and Children.So Clinton and the world Marxist/liberal media LIED LIED and LIED again like they always do every second of every day of every year these monsters lie ,proof: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532010/posts
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Muslims killed their own and Albanian Muslims killed Christian Serb Children and Grandmothers and Clinton bombed and killed Serb Christian children and Christian Serb grandmothers. So you want to try Clinton too? What about the U.S. bombings of civilians in Dresden Germany and the nuclear annihilation of 100,000 civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Want to try Truman too? I don’t for that except I want to try those 2 Marxists Clinton and Truman for trying to impose government healthcare and socialism on the American people . War is hell. There are no rules in war. but the Serbs didn’t commit any genocide and you and your propaganda sites can’t prove that there are mass graves like the media and Clinton said there were because where else are you going to bury 100,000 murdered civilians?


22 posted on 07/23/2008 9:16:10 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: isrul

“I don’t think Western civilization has the will to stop it.”

.....I’m with you...I thought 9/11 would galvanize America...I knew we were in trouble several days later when Bush invites an Iman to the memorial service in the National Cathederal.


23 posted on 07/23/2008 9:29:08 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: STONEWALLS

I agree about proactive action but inviting an Imam to the service wasn’t appeasement. I’m sure Muslims were also killed in the attacks. And not just the hijackers.


24 posted on 07/23/2008 9:34:15 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Democrat_media
The world Marxist media AND Democrat President Clinton did say that the Serbs murdered 100,000 Albanians

Your link provides no substantiated quote of any kind.

Muslims killed their own and Albanian Muslims killed Christian Serb Children and Grandmothers

I'm sure this is true. It doesn't give the Army of the Republika Srpska the right to do the same.

Clinton bombed and killed Serb Christian children and Christian Serb grandmothers

Clinton was not alone in ordering the bombing of Serbian military targets, they were carried out and coordinated by American military personnel.

However, Serbia was warned ahead of time that its military and governmental buildings would be targeted as well as routes of military transportation. No Serb civilian was intentionally killed by US airstrikes - but the people in the mass grave at Crni Vrh who had their throats slit and their brains blown out were deliberately killed.

What about the U.S. bombings of civilians in Dresden Germany

Dresden was also a military target, and the target of the US bombing was not civilians.

and the nuclear annihilation of 100,000 civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Again these were military targets that were bombed long after the Empire of Japan had been given the opportunity to surrender - an opportunity they rejected.

Want to try Truman too? I don’t for that except I want to try those 2 Marxists Clinton and Truman for trying to impose government healthcare and socialism on the American people .

In America we do not try people for political "crimes."

We do not have show trials or political tribunals.

War is hell. There are no rules in war. but the Serbs didn’t commit any genocide

There are indeed rules of war, which civilized peoples abide by. The forces of the Republika Srpska ignored those rules and adopted barbarism instead.

you and your propaganda sites can’t prove that there are mass graves like the media and Clinton said there were because where else are you going to bury 100,000 murdered civilians?

Generally one buries people in the ground. Which is exactly where 17,000 bodies have been found in Bosnia so far.

While there is plenty of room for 83,000 more, neither I nor the US government are claiming that there are that many more.

25 posted on 07/23/2008 9:36:37 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: JamesP81
There is no doubt in my mind that terrible war crimes happened on all sides. This was a vicious ethnic civil war. But trying to get people to see the bigger picture is like trying to get a driver -- passing a bloody car accident -- to look straight ahead because if he doesn't he'll go off a cliff. The psychological draw to wallow in the misery of the accident is just too much temptation, even though focusing on it instead of the road may mean his own demise.

In this case, we are "the driver" and "the bloody car accident" are the Bosian war crimes. What we need to do is keep our eyes forward, while still acknowledging the car accident and praying for its victims.

Some of what happened was real, and much was fictionalized to frame a context that made Serbs the fall guys for the war itself. The only way to do that was to dehumanize and demonize "the Serbs" into some unique species of subhuman -- the same way that Goebbels did to Jews (except in this case, it was to project onto them the image of inhuman "Nazis"). It had to be done, otherwise, people would be looking for some real context for how this horrible war between "real humans" happened. But instead, the only "real humans" we are offered in the MSM are Muslims (and some Croats)That, alone, should tell us something if we are listening.

Today, we know that the Golden Chain letter of the original donors to al Qaeda was found in Bosnia and that letter was dated three years before the war between Muslims and Serbs even started. We know Izetbegovic was an Islamist. We know that foreign Mujahaddin were fighting on the Muslim side. We know that we have been subjected to a propaganda campaign by the Muslims and the globalists. We also know that several of the 9/11 hijackers cut their jihadi teeth during the Bosnian war. We know that the attacks on America by al Qaeda began with a year of the Bosnian war (1st Trade Center Bombing).

All roads to this terrorism against us began in Bosnia -- and we opened the door to it. We just forgot tell the Serbs to get the hell out of the way while we chose to commit suicide on their land.

The court's decision on Karadzic is a foregone conclusion, even though it would be like convicting a US president for what some of our soldiers in Iraq chose to do without orders from him . But this is what the Hague was set up to do from the very beginning, convict the easy and expedient political targets and vindicate those who may have done worse but are "our political pawns".

Welcome to the NWO, where there are no rules, no fairness, no morality, no justice and no laws -- only power in a sugar-coated "moral" pill to make it easy to swallow. George Orwell underestimated the insidiousness of it.

26 posted on 07/23/2008 11:05:03 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Democrat_media
hi!

For some reason you seem to be mixing up Bosnia with Kosovo.

27 posted on 07/23/2008 11:47:26 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: wideawake
“Generally one buries people in the ground. Which is exactly where 17,000 bodies have been found in Bosnia so far.”
Even if true
That was a war zone. There is no proof who those dead were, were they Serbs, Muslims,Albanians, Muslim Jihadists, insurgents, soldiers, ? Sorry but they didn't have ID. And Muslims have been known to rebury bodies and try to frame others for massacres (See the Jenin “massacre” Muslims tried to frame Israelis for). How many times have Muslims cried massacre with the Israelis(Jenin etc.) and Americans (Haditha , Iraq,) Afghanistan etc.) so Muslims made up the Jenin and Haditha massacres but are suddenly telling the truth about Serb massacres huh? that's their MO you lying propagandist.

You can't prove who killed those people. Was it Clinton's bombs, Muslims killing Serbs , or Muslims killing other Muslims to frame Serbs. Muslims kill their own women and children to frame others for “war crimes” and massacres.

Also 17,000 dead for a war zone is very low. see world war 2 and how many civilians and others FDR and Truman killed. At least 50 million dead in world war 2. And Democrat Truman did nuke 100,000 civilians , women and children in Nagasaki. Sorry that bothers you but as Truman's nuking of hundreds of thousands of civilians prove all’s fair in War. there are no rules in war. However the Serbs didn't commit any genocide and your number of 17,000 dead in a war zone is ridiculous and no proof of any mass graves that Clinton and the liberal media said were there. And the Serbs have a right to defend themselves against Muslims and you can't prove Muslims didn't frame them. Muslims started that war and have been at war with the Serbs for 600 years. What's it to you . Go cry for the innocents at Hiroshima then at least that wasn't staged by Muslims like the "serb massacres" were and Like Jenin was and like Haditha was staged by Muslims, MUSLIMS MUSLIMS.

28 posted on 07/23/2008 11:48:50 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: wideawake
“Generally one buries people in the ground. Which is exactly where 17,000 bodies have been found in Bosnia so far.”
Even if true
That was a war zone. There is no proof who those dead were, were they Serbs, Muslims,Albanians, Muslim Jihadists, insurgents, soldiers, ? Sorry but they didn't have ID. And Muslims have been known to rebury bodies and try to frame others for massacres (See the Jenin “massacre” Muslims tried to frame Israelis for). How many times have Muslims cried massacre with the Israelis(Jenin etc.) and Americans (Haditha , Iraq,) Afghanistan etc.) so Muslims made up the Jenin and Haditha massacres but are suddenly telling the truth about Serb massacres huh? that's their MO you lying propagandist.

You can't prove who killed those people. Was it Clinton's bombs, Muslims killing Serbs , or Muslims killing other Muslims to frame Serbs. Muslims kill their own women and children to frame others for “war crimes” and massacres.

Also 17,000 dead for a war zone is very low. see world war 2 and how many civilians and others FDR and Truman killed. At least 50 million dead in world war 2. And Democrat Truman did nuke 100,000 civilians , women and children in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Sorry that bothers you but as Truman's nuking of hundreds of thousands of civilians proves all’s fair in love and War. there are no rules in war. However the Serbs didn't commit any genocide and your number of 17,000 dead in a war zone is ridiculous and no proof of any mass graves that Clinton and the liberal media said were there. And the Serbs have a right to defend themselves against Muslims and you can't prove Muslims didn't frame them. Muslims started that war and have been at war with the Serbs for 600 years. What's it to you . Go cry for the innocents at Hiroshima then at least that wasn't staged by Muslims like the "serb massacres" were and Like Jenin was and like Haditha was staged by Muslims, MUSLIMS MUSLIMS.

29 posted on 07/23/2008 11:49:57 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: Democrat_media; wideawake
You're not a serious poster and you are quite ignorant on the events that occurred in Bosnia.

Ignore this guy, wideawake.

30 posted on 07/23/2008 11:50:40 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

Go ignore yourself and read your Koran you propagandist.


31 posted on 07/23/2008 11:53:43 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: Democrat_media

I’m a vet of the Bosnian War who fought against the Muslims. Where were you?


32 posted on 07/23/2008 11:55:23 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

33 posted on 07/23/2008 12:30:12 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: canuck_conservative

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/judgment3.html


34 posted on 07/23/2008 12:49:56 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (Another Hollow Hague Show Trial)
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the ping.


35 posted on 07/23/2008 12:50:30 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: gitmogrunt
Another fan of Living Marxism, I see. As well as a fan of the famous gay site antiwar.com.
36 posted on 07/23/2008 1:26:59 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: canuck_conservative

You kill only 20k in Africa and you are considered a Human Rights Leader


37 posted on 07/23/2008 1:30:09 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Bokababe; montyspython; getoffmylawn; kosta50; BabaYaga; Ravnagora
Would any of you be upset by the fact that Karadzic as Dragan Dabic vacationed on the Croatian island of Ciovo near Trogir in 2006? article in Croatian
38 posted on 07/23/2008 1:58:52 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
The second picture is aggressively photoshopped.
39 posted on 07/23/2008 2:11:50 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: canuck_conservative

There’s no use in crying over dead Muslims.


40 posted on 07/23/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by getoffmylawn
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