Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 07/17/2008 10:06:33 PM PDT by Nipfan
With these ice cores, I brought up a point to an AGW believer that the level of accuracy of CO2 concentration found in the ice cores has only been validated for 40 years out of the last 650,000 years. That a reasonable person might grant that the same levels of inaccuracy PROVEN over the past 40 years could be EXTRAPOLATED out to 100 years. To assume that those levels of inaccuracy hold steady for 650,000 years is theory.
I pointed out that dating inaccuracies of these cores have already shown to be off by 200 to over 1000 years and that If AGW theorists are going to continue to use ice core samples to show that CO2 levels have increased due to human intervention, then they need to be able to prove two things. 1) The date of a sample with a reasonable tolerance for time (i.e. a sample advertised as being from a certain date would probably need to be from that actual date +/- ten years in order to show human intervention in climate change). 2) The CO2 concentration in the atmosphere at the time of the sample.
I brought up that the CO2 levels in an air pocket of an ice core sample might deteriorate over large spaces of time. The claim is that the levels are frozen in time but this has not been proven because it has not been validated for a long enough period of time. For all we know, the older air pockets could have levels of CO2 that are less than when the air pocket froze.
His answer.......it doesn’t matter.
Apparently, the scientific process does not matter to these theorists. The standards of the scientific process are held up for 5th graders doing science projects for the science fair, but not for these folks. Can anyone imagine a 5th graders explaining his or her project to the judges and when they ask why the measuring devices were not validated for accuracy, the 5th grader saying “it doesn’t really matter”. I’ve helped both my two sons with 3 projects now and even they learned that when you measure data, you must validate it and whenever you change methods, you must validate them against each other and account for margins of errors of both.
With that CO2 we might actually have more and lusher forests and plants.
I'll never understand these pagan, gaia worshipping, idiot environmentalists.
It is, IMHO (always accurate, never wrong), a MUST READ. Here is a guy with credentials that lays out some extremely important and not widely known facts about "Global Warming" and CO2 that shoot giant holes in the Alarmist's arguments. One of the best summaries I have ever read.
READ IT. READ THE WHOLE THING.
Be aware, the alarmists are already shifting to the next "sky is falling" position: Ocean acidification!
Notice the date on the article: July 2008.
Only now, nearly 1 1/2 years later, are details of the “deniers” written articles being taken seriously. And as we examine them, we find how prophetic they were and how convincingly they presented their conclusions. I’m going to add this article to my list that presents the “denier” (actually truthful) positions in a cogent, complete and understandable manner.
Sen. Inhofe needs to call out "commander zero" for a prime time televised debate on this subject.
He has, to say the least, an overly optimistic view of the persistence of peoples' memories.
Good summary bump! ;-)
Please let me know who denies that it is.
If water vapor is not a major greenhouse gas, then the climate-change folks' case falls apart, since water vapor acts to provide a positive feedback to CO2 forcings.
Your link doesn’t work!
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