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Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Debate On Global Warming
Daily Tech ^ | 7/16/2008 | Michael Asher, Daily Tech

Posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:20 AM PDT by ebayhater

The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 10,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming. The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science. The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming "incontrovertible."

In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marquis explains...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytech.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globsalwarming; leftistfools; nowdoyougetit; truthcomesout
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Looks pretty significant..
1 posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:20 AM PDT by ebayhater
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To: ebayhater

About damn time.


2 posted on 07/17/2008 7:33:38 AM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: ebayhater

The only problem is, Americans are too ignorant or apathetic to care or even pay attention.

If it gets any traction at all, it will have to go on Oprah, the View and Dr. Phil, or be mentioned in football beer commercials and NASCAR.


3 posted on 07/17/2008 7:35:37 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: freespirited

When I debate global warming, I remind the other person about the heat wave of June-July 1980, when many cities, including New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Kansas City, and Detroit had record high temps. of 115-120 degrees. I tell the other person that I don’t remember any of those cities being hotter than 105 degrees, since then. I ask how we can have global warming now but not have global warming when we were warmer. I haven’t found anyone who can answer.


4 posted on 07/17/2008 7:40:02 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: ebayhater

It’s significant to us...but to the entire generation of young adults and children who have been thoroughly brainwashed with this junk science I think it’s too little too late. It’s going to be awfully hard to put that toothpaste back in the tube.


5 posted on 07/17/2008 7:40:04 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ebayhater

What we have here is a failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. But after working a few days in Boss Kean’s ditch, they will get their minds right.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 7:40:29 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

7 posted on 07/17/2008 7:40:34 AM PDT by devolve (- "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: ebayhater

It is AMAZING how easily all of our best scientific bodies have been duped by global warming. I have lost much faith in integrity of science, and I have a degree in engineering.


8 posted on 07/17/2008 7:41:25 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: ebayhater

I remember as a kid being taught that “Science” was equivalent to empiricism. In retrospect, it seems pretty funny.


9 posted on 07/17/2008 7:42:13 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: ebayhater

Ha! Hot damn.

Science, after all, isn’t about consensus ... science isn’t democratic. Its about proof. Its about finding holes in your OWN theory, testing and re-testing each and every flaw, and either verifying your hypothesis, or refining it to match with the data.

Global warming has completely reversed the process — a theory was posited, voted on, and the “consensus” was accepted as truth without any verification whatsoever. No proof. No testing. No trial and error. Just a vote. That’s not science — that’s politics.

H


10 posted on 07/17/2008 7:43:07 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -- Davy Crockett)
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To: ebayhater

It seems to me that once any of this science has been politicized or subject to “concensus”, it is a very long trip back to credibility.


11 posted on 07/17/2008 7:43:11 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: ebayhater
There are still people insisting that the Earth is flat, that is was created just 5000 years ago, and that we never made it to the moon.

The GW hoaxers claim that the science was "settled" was just an attempt at pure agitprop.

12 posted on 07/17/2008 7:44:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ebayhater
Just one more push!


13 posted on 07/17/2008 7:44:53 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: ebayhater

I predict that the argument will change from

“the evidence for global warming is incontrovertible”

to

“we don’t really know if there is a human influence or not, but its better to be on the safe side”

Which, of course, is bogus as well. More goalpost moving, but it will still be the same hoax.


14 posted on 07/17/2008 7:45:11 AM PDT by kidd
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
This is good, but it's a day late and a dollar short - the "carbon cap and trade" train has pulled out of the station, and the politicians who back it will NEVER admit they were wrong, were duped, or whatever.

The IPCC's purposeful errors are designed to take down our economy and prosperity - nothing else.

15 posted on 07/17/2008 7:45:25 AM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: ebayhater

Where can I get in?


16 posted on 07/17/2008 7:46:29 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: ebayhater

I hope this is the final straw.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 7:47:04 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: Always Right
I have lost much faith in integrity of science, and I have a degree in engineering.

Same here. Scientists who work in the private sector can only get away with so much BS. But watch out for roving bands of scientists who make grandiose pronouncements --as in global cooling (circa 1977), global warming, nuclear power or evolutionary theory.

18 posted on 07/17/2008 7:47:15 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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19 posted on 07/17/2008 7:47:30 AM PDT by devolve (- "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: ebayhater; SierraWasp; tubebender; steelie; Jeff Head; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; ...

The days of total thought control via the MSM and the screaming idiots supporting the latest or oldest liberal lie are coming to an end.

Thanks to the internet, we can detect and prove the lies before the end of 24 hours and start posting that data.

It may take awhile, but eventually the truth will come out.

The liberals will label it Swiftboating, and we will just smile. We know that the Swiftboat Vets helped to derail Kerry, and many of us supported them. We know that Swiftboating stands for getting the truth out there inspite of the lying, spinning and thought controlling MSM.

A very large share of Americans are saying no to all forms of the liberal MSM. As a result the fishwraps and tv nets are having financial troubles that could force them out of business before and by the end of this decade.


20 posted on 07/17/2008 7:48:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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