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To: ebayhater

It is AMAZING how easily all of our best scientific bodies have been duped by global warming. I have lost much faith in integrity of science, and I have a degree in engineering.


8 posted on 07/17/2008 7:41:25 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right
I have lost much faith in integrity of science, and I have a degree in engineering.

Same here. Scientists who work in the private sector can only get away with so much BS. But watch out for roving bands of scientists who make grandiose pronouncements --as in global cooling (circa 1977), global warming, nuclear power or evolutionary theory.

18 posted on 07/17/2008 7:47:15 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Always Right

I believe it is the result of specialization where no generalist survives the rigors of the ‘publish or perish’ plan and we end up with acceptance of conclusions rather than the time-tested evaluate, question model.


25 posted on 07/17/2008 7:54:19 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Always Right

It is AMAZING how easily all of our best scientific bodies have been duped by global warming.

That’s because most “scientists” are primarily concerned with politics and money. Science comes way down on the list.


41 posted on 07/17/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: Always Right
"It is AMAZING how easily all of our best scientific bodies have been duped by global warming."

I don't think most of them actually have. But a few loudmouths like James Hansen at NASA can make it seem that way though.

As engineers, you and I are trained to look for cause and effect and try to understand the relationship between these.

I never fails to be amazed by the number of people that I would otherwise assume to be intelligent people than are simply unable to apply deductive reasoning to the simplest of problems.

A very simple fact should cause most people to question whether CO2 is a factor in global warming:

In all the ice core data that shows temperature change vs atmospheric CO2, CO2 increases lag temperature increases by hundreds of years.

Many people simply don't seem to be able to understand that this places rises of CO2 into the category of effect, rather than cause.

When people cannot use logic to correctly interpret even simple relationships like this, they are subject to being convinced by propaganda.

52 posted on 07/17/2008 9:27:42 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Always Right

I feel the same way. But my confidence was already partly undermined by the Y2K bug hoax, which was extensively promoted by computer scientists, and no one would call it a hoax.


94 posted on 07/17/2008 9:55:43 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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