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Police chief says ticket guidelines aren't quotas
THE GAZETTE ^ | July 11, 2008 | LANCE BENZEL

Posted on 07/17/2008 7:21:30 AM PDT by george76

Standards aren’t about generating revenue.

Motorcycle officers in Colorado Springs should each be writing a minimum of 11 tickets a day, and their counterparts in patrol cars should issue at least one...

But these aren't quotas, Police Chief Richard Myers said.

During an impromptu media briefing Friday, Myers described them as guidelines that help supervisors keep track of their officers' job performance ...

Ticket quotas - feared and despised by drivers everywhere - demand that officers meet goals or face mandatory discipline, Myers told reporters. That's not the case here, he said.

"Police officers are paid for by taxpayers, and they want to know that they're getting a return on their investment,"

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: barneyfife; donutwatch; govwatch; leo; quotas; ticketquotas
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1 posted on 07/17/2008 7:21:30 AM PDT by george76
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But these aren't quotas, Police Chief Richard Myers said.

Oh fer heaven's sakes, I'd respect him more if he'd just tell the truth about it.
2 posted on 07/17/2008 7:24:41 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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"Police officers are paid for by taxpayers, and they want to know that they're getting a return on their investment,"

What a complete idiot or worse.

3 posted on 07/17/2008 7:27:11 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Tax man with a gun


4 posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:18 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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When asked if the police department had ticket quota’s to fulfil, the cop replied “ No sir, we do not have quota’s. We are free to write as many as we like.”........


5 posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:49 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: george76

Police Chief..........appointed nuthugger !

County Sheriff.......elected nut !

As a former Deputy Sheriff that is my opinion based on observations !....:o)


6 posted on 07/17/2008 7:32:33 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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where i work they are called “performance objectives” by the bosses. looks like that line of thinking is catching on across the country!


7 posted on 07/17/2008 7:34:17 AM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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"This is not about revenue."

Bravo Sierra.

8 posted on 07/17/2008 7:34:59 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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If gas prices go up and drivers lower their speed and get fewer speeding tickets, will this police chief issue a “guideline” for broken taillight tickets even if his cops have to use their nightsticks to get them?


9 posted on 07/17/2008 7:40:52 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Squantos
As a former Provost Marshal, I always resented my installation commander insisting on MPs demonstrating zero tolerance in the issuance of tickets. Certainly, as the installation commander, it was his call as to the type of command climate and the tone he wished to set, but the MP Corps has long sold itself on the maturity, discretion and judgement exercised by our enlisted. IMHO, in a whole lot of cases, a verbal warning would go a lot further in enhancing an individual driver's safety practices, as well as fostering a sense of trust between the police and the community at large, which is always helpful in soliciting the public's cooperation in more major cases.

As it turned out, a whole lot of tickets were issued to soldiers who were new on the installation and generally unfamiliar with the post speed limits and traffic regulations. Giving a soldier or a dependent a ticket before they've left in-processing is a sure way to build an adverserial environment for the entirety of that soldier's tour.

I have to say that I've been pulled over twice in the last year, once in Waxahachie, TX for speeding, and once in Broussard, LA for a burnt out brake light. Both times I got off with a warning when both officers technically had me dead to rights. Thankfully, those communities still allowed their officers the latitude to point out a deficiency, both of which I corrected with every bit as much immediacy as if I'd been issued a ticket.

10 posted on 07/17/2008 7:52:32 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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During an impromptu media briefing Friday, Myers described them as guidelines that help supervisors keep track of their officers' job performance ...

If it's not a quota, then how can it be used to evaluate performance? After all, how can your job performance be lower for not making a non-existent quota? Defining a quota as having a mandatory disciplinary aspect is clearly weighting the definition away from everyday use and towards his own agenda.

11 posted on 07/17/2008 8:01:20 AM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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As a former Deputy Sheriff

A buddy of mine took a law enforcement class when he was in high school. When the Deputy/teacher explained that the L.A. County Sheriff's Office was like a family with Sheriff Peter Pitchess as the father, he asked, "Does that mean that you're all sons of Pitchess?" The deputy was not amused.

12 posted on 07/17/2008 8:11:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline for sale or rent.)
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If you can read this article and not come out of it angry then you are not alive. We have double speak. We have lying. We have performance based evaluations that have nothing to do with people obeying the law or not. We have no attempt here to foster community trust. City governments encourage this type of management because they demand a return on investment. BS.. Many Many here on FR defend this policy... Incompatible with self reliance, an important conservative principal.


13 posted on 07/17/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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Aren't quotas? Yeah, right.

Reminds me of our "Affirmitive Action" goals when I was in management for a large company. They insisted these goals were not quotas but yet these "goals" were used as major factor in our rating reviews that had a major impact on salary increases.

14 posted on 07/17/2008 8:15:28 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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Righty-o.

And when cops are demoted or sacked because of a lack of tickets it will be ‘voluntary’ discipline.


15 posted on 07/17/2008 8:15:28 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Fresh Wind

Whenever someone says it’s not about the money...it’s about the money.


16 posted on 07/17/2008 8:20:46 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: george76

Entering the era of police State.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 8:36:19 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: KarlInOhio
"broken taillight"

Or for "Safety Chains Not Crossed" on your trailer.

18 posted on 07/17/2008 8:51:45 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: george76

Here’s a suggestion to all you NASCAR wanna-bes, slow the F down.


19 posted on 07/17/2008 8:55:14 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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Police Officers In the town of West Newbury Mass sit on the middle of a well inclined hill off Route 113 ready to pull people over.

Even in the middle of the night they can be found hanging out there eager and ready.

They have a reputation of pulling people over leaving the hospital I work at after 11pm on a frequently as we return home almost to the point of harassment.

Most of the people that work at my hospital state "they only pull people over because they are bored and have nothing to do."

If that is true then maybe they should just set up a road block so they can talk to people. I would rather that then see blue lights come on behind me making me feel like I am a criminal on a regular basis.

It's sad to report this because I am Pro cop.

20 posted on 07/17/2008 9:16:48 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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