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Greens are the enemies of liberty
guardian.co.uk ^
| July 15, 2008
| Brendan O'Neill
Posted on 07/15/2008 6:23:33 AM PDT by libstripper
Imagine a society where simply speaking out of turn or saying the "wrong thing" was openly discussed as a crime against humanity, and where sceptics or deniers of the truth were publicly labelled "criminals", hauled before the press and accused of endangering humanity with their grotesque untruths.
Imagine a society where even some liberals demanded severe restrictions on freedom of movement; where people campaigned for travelling overseas to be made prohibitively expensive in order to force people to stay at home; and where immigration was frowned upon as "toxic" and "destructive".
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; democratparty; democrats; environment; environmentalism; environmentalists; fascism; globalwarming; greenparty; greens; hoax; illiberalism; liberalism; liberals; liberty; pc; watermelons
This Brit really gets it. Watermelons are totalitarians.
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From the link:
" Environmentalists are innately hostile to freedom of speech. Last month James Hansen, one of the world's leading climate change scientists, said the CEOs of oil companies should be tried for crimes against humanity and nature. They have been "putting out misinformation", he said, and "I think that's a crime". This follows green writer Mark Lynas' insistence that there should be "international criminal tribunals" for climate change deniers, who will be "partially but directly responsible for millions of deaths". They will "have to answer for their crimes", he says. The American eco-magazine Grist recently published an article on deniers that called for 'war crimes trials for these bastards
some sort of climate Nuremberg.' "
This being in The Guardian is refreshing.
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Beam me to Planet Gore !
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To: libstripper
It’s refreshing to see that even the libs are starting to figure out the real danger some of there comrades pose to there own freedom. That’s the 1st article that that red rag has published that I’ve completely read in a long time!
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posted on
07/15/2008 7:17:13 AM PDT
by
Devilinbaggypants
(Stop the madness...spread the word...drill now and increase refining capacity!)
To: libstripper
I was talking with one gentleman at church on Saturday and we were talking about the restriction of movement. The conversation started with how some people want to bring back the 55 mph National Maximum Speed Limit (NMSL). He was pretty upset on that one like me. He then mentioned that flying has gotten to be such a pain with dealing with TSA and the expense. He mentioned that the liberals don't want you to travel too much such as leave town. This is kind of parallel with a manager I worked for at one time - a tree hugger liberal democrat. He didn't like it when you wanted to use your earned vacation time unless it was a day here and a day there. You also had to get permission to leave town as well when you took vacation.
I am thinking of this theory about liberals, they are the modern day's version of the Puritans. The don't want you to enjoy the fruits of your labor and that idea is enforced by punitive taxes. The 55 mph limit/NMSL (hopefully stays dead) is another example to make traveling more dreadful instead of being enjoyable. Restrictions on travels through this 55 mph and making flying painful would discourage you from taking vacation especially to anywhere else a great distance. Don't forget to add in limitations on smoking and eating unhealthy food. Also add in other petty rules and regulations on top of that.
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posted on
07/15/2008 7:24:28 AM PDT
by
CORedneck
To: libstripper
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posted on
07/15/2008 7:57:11 AM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: CORedneck
I understand your general point, but TSA was implemented by Bush, not the greens.
Airport security is a hassle. I wish they’d emulate El Al and just super-reinforce the doors to the cockpits. There are five of you, with boxcutters? Fine, you can kill all the passengers and flight attendants. Then when we land you’ll be arrested unless you kill yourselves first. But you ain’t gettin’ in here.
If there’s no percentage in hijacking there won’t be hijackers.
To: libstripper
That sounds like the old Soviet Union. I won’t submit to it.
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posted on
07/15/2008 8:30:34 AM PDT
by
TexasRepublic
(When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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posted on
07/15/2008 8:15:40 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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posted on
07/15/2008 8:21:54 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: steelyourfaith; libstripper; traviskicks
" Environmentalists are innately hostile to freedom of speech. Last month James Hansen, one of the world's leading climate change scientists, said the CEOs of oil companies should be tried for crimes against humanity and nature. They have been "putting out misinformation", he said, and "I think that's a crime". This follows green writer Mark Lynas' insistence that there should be "international criminal tribunals" for climate change deniers, who will be "partially but directly responsible for millions of deaths". They will "have to answer for their crimes", he says. The American eco-magazine Grist recently published an article on deniers that called for 'war crimes trials for these bastards
some sort of climate Nuremberg.' "Breathtaking, in a Heftybag sort of way.
To: libstripper
Some greens openly admit they are on the side of illiberalism. George Monbiot describes environmentalism as "a campaign not for more freedom but for less". Environmentalism is instinctively and relentlessly illiberal, and it is doing more to inculcate people with fear, self-loathing and a religious-style sense of meekness than any piece of anti-terror legislation ever could. If you believe in freedom, you must reject it. It's interesting but hardly surprising to see on which side of the continuumn the relentlessly anti-American Monbiot turns up. His main point is not new at all, but a tired repetition of every totalitarian who ever put on jackboots: "individuals have too much freedom for the common good and it is the duty of the State to restrict it."
Environmentalist politics, taken to the popular extreme, are profoundly totalitarian in a literal sense - their adherents intend to restrict and order every human activity that uses resources of any nature, which is every human activity. Neither Soviet Russia nor Nazi Germany pretended to govern human life to this degree.
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