Posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:29 AM PDT by MindBender26
The Obama Citizenship Question - - - Have We Been Suckered In By Hillary And The DNC?
Conservatives have been arguing about Obama possibly not being constitutionally qualified to be President. Some claim he is not a “natural born citizen.” Besides distracting us from the real issue of teaching America what a disaster an Obama presidency would be, we have been focused on this issue.
But stop and think for a moment. Even if we are right, have we been doing Hillary’s work for her?
Step back for a moment and consider some Realpolitics.
Remember, we Conservatives do not elect the President. Neither do the hard line Dems. Regardless of who is the candidate, about 40% of the public will vote D, and 40% will vote R.
The deciding vote is always cast by that 20% in the middle, the swing voters.
Often female, they are usually late deciders and most importantly, make up their minds on Maslow type issues; Is my world safe? Is my country safe? Is my family economically, militarily and morally safe… and safer with the Republican or Democrat candidate?
Also remember that the Dems have never been a majority party. They often put together winning coalitions of multiple minorities, but they don’t begin with a majority.
Now, move back to July 2007, a year ago. You are an RNC leader. Who do you want to face?
A very savvy, popular female senator, especially popular with the swing voters, or an unknown, inexperienced, untested, Muslim, Black first term senator?
She would get these minority Dem voters in the GENERAL Election (the only one that really counts.)
1) Traditional blue collar Dem-Labor voters (the ones Reagan took away.) 2) The Fuzzy Left vote 3) The Radical vote 4) The Black vote (Blacks would vote for Charles Manson if he were running on the Dem ticket) 5) The Youth vote (although they talk a lot, they don’t vote much in Generals) 6) The Gay-Lesbian vote (she would have that “secret” vote VERY strongly, and get bazillions of dollars from them.) 7) The Soccer Mom vote 8) The “hurt, downtrodden female” vote
In the GENERAL, our Islamic Black Senator would get
1) The Fuzzy Left vote 2) The Radical vote 3) The Black vote 4) The Youth vote
More importantly, all her baggage is known and already factored in to her favorability ratings. On the other hand, most of his baggage is not and they are Maslow type or bread and butter issue negatives.
His negatives are still ready to be used against him. The serious coverage of Tony Rezko not even started. The Rev. Wright is still circling the field of battle, ready to drop huge electoral fear bombs on those swing voters. The Senator’s negatives scare us. His negatives are new, and there are still many yet to come to the public attention.
Sure he makes a great speech… but that wears out. It would certainly wear out long before a General. His victory in the Primaries was dependent in a large part on the anti-Hillary vote, not on the pro-Obama vote.
Even the old pros at the DNC quietly know this. Their current line about Obama’s popularity is… “Up fast, down fast… just like Bill Clinton’s weenie”
But remember, you are a Republican leader trying to get that MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SWING VOTER, (not the FReeper types.)
Now, move forward Mr. Leader, it’s 2008. We got our wish. The Dems did it to themselves again. This is 1972 all over again. The far-left Dem primary voters have chosen a far-left candidate who appeals to the far-left Dems, the ones who vote in the Primaries, but in the long run he has little real long-term critical appeal anywhere else.
Now, how are you going to beat him in the General?
You are going to wrap him in the Reverend Wright and his hate of White people. Every time they breathe, they will think of Wright. Far-left Dems may have "forgiven and forgotten” Rev. Wright… but we’re going to ensure MOR voters NEVER forget him and his hate.
Speaking about hate, we haven’t even started with ACORN and Obama’s work for them yet. How about Black Reparations. How about his ongoing association with murdering terrorists like Bill Ayers, American terrorists who wish they could kill more Americans all over again.
How about “Military experience? Can Obama even spell "G.I.”? Taxes, terrorism, taxes, crime, taxes, government-directed healthcare, radical Supreme Court judges, did I mention higher, crippling taxes…. over and over and over again.
Untested, inexperienced, a tax and spend, radical, Black Muslim… oh, I’m sorry, did I say Black Muslim… Of course, I meant Islamic Black Democrat. I’m so sorry…. (blush)!!!
And we repeat it over and over and over again
In the GENERAL, he is so much easier to beat than the Hildabeast…. and thank goodness she lost the Primaries.
There is no way she and Bill could pull some political shenanigans and get the nomination now without rioting in the streets… (Chicago 1968 all over again, which guaranteed the Nixon win.)
But wait… If somehow Obama is found to be legally disqualified, who else could they turn to? The Hildabeast of course! Now she is tanned, rested and ready… she never officially dropped out of the race. And it wouldn’t be her who got poor Mr. Obama thrown out of the race. It would be those nasty Republicans and Conservatives!!!
All of a sudden, Obama wouldn’t be the Messiah anymore, but Hillary would be “Our Lady of Virginal Wonderfulness”
Think of it like a Super Bowl. The primaries were the regular season and the playoffs to decide who pays in the Big Game. The Big Game (the General election, the only one that really counts) hasn’t started yet! The MOR voters are on summer break. They won’t get really interested in politics until mid-September. As FReepers, we’re interested in politics and elections all the time, because we are interested in the long term future of our country,,, but not the Sheeple. For the Sheeple, the primaries are over and it’s summertime, kids at the beach or pool, days off, etc.
The only reason there is any attention is because the media is driving it for ratings, because with Iraq settling down, they don’t have anything else to talk about, and politics drives ratings.
But in the world of Realpolitics, in the world of political reality, in the area of what will matter a year from now, we’re still in the pre-game show!
The points don’t count yet.
So, lay off the citizenship thing, at least for now. Let’s make sure Obama gets the nomination, then beat him during the General, on a hundred real issues!
Let’s not get him out now while they can still run in a substitute. Keep the citizenship thing in our quiver, so if by some strange reason Obama won, we can use it then, when it counts, on the offhand chance it is real.
Stop doing Hillary’s work for her. Let’s not let this citizenship thing become Operation Chaos running three month too long. If he goes out now, we get Hillary! We may hate her, but the Sheeple do not!
Don’t do Hillary and Bill’s Rovearian work for them, We want Obama… on their side, as their public face, image and candidate in the General!
A blogger named Polarik ‘opened’ the issue when he discovered it was a forged document. Ignore it if it bothers you, but we are going to continue to pound this til he coughs up a real BC.
The RNC hasn’t touched this
The Hillary camp is actively participating in “Operation Chaos”!
The bitter divisions within the Dem Party is the only thing preventing this election cycle from being a complete bummer!
And thank goodness for the entertainment of Larry Sinclair.
I have found (and do) absolutely EVERYTHING about Obama’s meteoric rise to presumptive nominee ...odd. Up to and including the whole birth certificate issue.
Many times in the last several weeks it’s dawned on me- and others far smarter- that we’re doing Hillary’s work for her. Infuriating. At the same time- this guy is SO scary to anyone who’s paying attention- it’s hard NOT to look for any advantage to bring him down, either now or in November.
That Hillary may be the beneficiary of all this is sickening.
I’ve done a great deal of reading and research on the whole birth certificate mess- and conclude only that SOMETHING is amiss- though precisely what- I can’t say definitively.
Somewhere between tinfoil and reality there lie the facts of Obama’s life. It’s unsettling to realize that we are not privy to all those facts.
It's the flipside of the old headline which said, "Son of Immigrants Makes Good."
McCain’s campaign is the cure for insomnia.
If the BC is a fraud, he has committed a crime.
If he has lied about his eligibility to be President, he has committed a crime.
Granted, not a crime we have ever had to deal with in our nation's history...but a crime nonetheless.
This is not about some BJ and lie that took place in the oval office, it is about meeting constitutional requirements on a very basic level.
IMHO, if the BC is proven to be false and a legitimate BC can't be produced...Obama has committed a high crime against the United States of America.
This isn't all we got on Obama, it is just another brick taken out of his socialist wall. A fraud of this proportion is only the tip of the iceberg of what this man is willing to do to destroy America.
If I can control the rage I have towards him pandering to the illegal aliens and enviro-commies, then yes, it makes Dole’s campaign seem like Teddy Roosevelt’s.
This entire citizenship/birth certificate issue can go away literally overnight if the Obama campaign is able to produce a legitimate, non-enhanced, non-doctored ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961.
Not a photoshopped duplicate, not a ‘facsimile’, but the Real Meal Deal.
I’ve used the analogy before, and I’ll use it again:
You get pulled over by a police officer. You try to tell the officer “oh I have a driver’s license but I don’t have to show it to you, I assure you that it’s valid, up to date, and legitimate.”
The police officer will have only 5 words to say:
“Show Me The License Now.”
We’re not talking about a speeding ticket or a traffic citation, we’re talking about a candidate for President of the United States meeting the Constitutional requirements for that Office.
So Senator Obama? “SHOW US THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE NOW.”
Simple as that.
“It’s unsettling to realize that we are not privy to all those facts.”
The simple fact that there exists such mystique about the man should be enough to thwart his ascendency to the Oval Office, or rather from the Liberal perspective, the Throne Room.
If in doubt, do without.
It is just one issue surrounding the undercover jihadist candidate. We will nail this quisling.
Obama CAN be beat on the issues AND the citizenship question. It is an issue too. Demand proof of citizenship NOW. We won’t be able to do it if he is elected, just like we never got Bill Clintons medical records. You can expect race riots like Watts if he doesn’t win or riots of joy that a black man will give them “freedom” from white rule.
I fail to understand your obsession with torpedoing this issue. Do you really think Hillary could benefit from this? You think if Obama got thrown off the ticket by a technicality Hillary would win? If Obama got thrown off the ticket on this issue, McCain would capture 90% of the black vote and would win in the biggest landslide ever. There would be rioting in the streets and most of it would be directed against Hillary.
Look up “esoteric” in the dictionary and you'll see my picture next to the word.
Besides we have known each other a long time and agree more often than not. I have been very scarce around here since fall 05 but I'm trying to be more of a nuisance lately.
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Yeah, a choice between electing someone who’s constitutionally disqualified or aiding Hillary Clinton in some way is a no-brainer.
The RNC is filled with spineless eunuchs, IMO.
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